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C Shell :)
« on: May 11, 2005, 10:33:35 pm »
I decided to learn C, mostly because I didn't feel like studying.  I got MingW and MSYS as a compiling system/shell, and I'm wondering if any of you have good tutorials?

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My world program is sexy :)

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Re: C Shell :)
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2005, 10:24:03 am »
The hell does C shell have to do with learning C?

If you're gonna learn to use a shell, use one in Linux. Windows shell emulators are dumb.

And if you're gonna use a C-oriented shell, use tcsh.
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[17:32:45] * xar sets mode: -oooooooooo algorithm ban chris cipher newby stdio TehUser tnarongi|away vursed warz
[17:32:54] * xar sets mode: +o newby
[17:32:58] <xar> new rule
[17:33:02] <xar> me and newby rule all

I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

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Re: C Shell :)
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2005, 03:41:27 pm »
Losers, DJGPP + makefile.
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Re: C Shell :)
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2005, 06:41:20 pm »
The hell does C shell have to do with learning C?

If you're gonna learn to use a shell, use one in Linux. Windows shell emulators are dumb.

And if you're gonna use a C-oriented shell, use tcsh.
It's msys, a shell designed for cross platform C, C++, Ada, etc... compiling.  I wanted to get into C for no reason at all and downloaded it, then asked if anyone had any tutorials, so go die.  The reason I asked for tutorials is because I was writing my Hello program and realized I had nothing else to work with, and I wanted to learn.

MSYS supports grep, sh, etc.. and I do feel like I'm back using my good ol' Slackware 9.1 Install Disc Linux Kernel [of Doom], the only difference is that I haven't (and thankfully can't) wiped my HDs twice yet.

@Warrior: I used DJGPP and makefile for a while, but I didn't like them for whatever reason (it was a while ago).  I also used rhide and GNU++, but they are ew and designed for Win95 DOS.
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Re: C Shell :)
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2005, 07:23:39 pm »
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so go die.
And this kid wants to join x86? Hrm..

Also, she sells sea shells by the sea shore. You might want to go talk to her.
I'd personally do as Joe suggests

You might be right about that, Joe.


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Re: C Shell :)
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2005, 08:12:07 pm »
..and this kid is in x86?

Useless non productive, non funny, non important comments.
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Re: C Shell :)
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2005, 10:10:02 pm »
Hey, when did I tell the queen to die? Thats right, Mr. BLS.
I'd personally do as Joe suggests

You might be right about that, Joe.


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Re: C Shell :)
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2005, 11:28:16 pm »
Whatever, I have full on Dark-Elements which is good.
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Re: C Shell :)
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2005, 07:56:06 am »
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...she sells sea shells by the sea shore...

Say it out loud! I can't!
I'd personally do as Joe suggests

You might be right about that, Joe.


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Re: C Shell :)
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2005, 07:58:58 am »
Ignore the ++ and go here: http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/
And like a fool I believed myself, and thought I was somebody else...

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Re: C Shell :)
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2005, 02:36:18 pm »
I KNOW C++ YOU MONKEY!!

I want to learn C because making DLLs and whatnot is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much easier.

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Re: C Shell :)
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2005, 12:17:55 am »
heres a nice tutorial. hello world :P.
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#include <iostream>

using namespace std;

int main (int argc, char *argv[])
{
  cout << "Hello World!" << endl;
  cout << "Press ENTER to continue..." << endl;
  cin.get();
  return 0;
}

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Re: C Shell :)
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2005, 03:23:44 am »
I KNOW C++ YOU MONKEY!!

I want to learn C because making DLLs and whatnot is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much easier.

If you know C++, you know C. Take out the OOP stuff and you have C.

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Re: C Shell :)
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2005, 08:30:38 am »
heres a nice tutorial. hello world :P.
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#include <iostream>

using namespace std;

int main (int argc, char *argv[])
{
  cout << "Hello World!" << endl;
  cout << "Press ENTER to continue..." << endl;
  cin.get();
  return 0;
}
A. That's retarded.
B. cin.get()?  That serves no purpose.
C. You're using a namespace you douche.
D. You use namespace std but don't use stdio, smart one.

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Re: C Shell :)
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2005, 09:30:14 am »
afaik C doesn't utilize the cout/cin functions and they also afaik don't have namespaces.

C isn't object oriented so the closest thing to OO you can do in C is linked lists
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Re: C Shell :)
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2005, 10:54:57 am »
afaik C doesn't utilize the cout/cin functions and they also afaik don't have namespaces.

C isn't object oriented so the closest thing to OO you can do in C is linked lists
That's why rabbit commented on it. :P

Linked lists aren't even close to OO, lol.

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Re: C Shell :)
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2005, 12:57:34 pm »
Linked lists suck, too, I'd rather just use an array.

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Re: C Shell :)
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2005, 01:14:09 pm »
Linked lists suck, too, I'd rather just use an array.

They're okay in C. Seems a bit more efficient than an array of structures. :>

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Re: C Shell :)
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2005, 03:18:48 pm »
A. That's retarded.
B. cin.get()? That serves no purpose.
C. You're using a namespace you douche.
D. You use namespace std but don't use stdio, smart one.

ummm. yes im using a namespace because in the iostream.h file, the cout property line is named #use std:cout or something like that but stf:cout was there.

and cin.get is also something in that file. im just using a template from Dev-C++.

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Re: C Shell :)
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2005, 05:22:54 pm »
He's learning CEE, not CEE PLUS PLUS (as denoted by the subject C Shell :)).

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Re: C Shell :)
« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2005, 05:50:34 pm »
A. That's retarded.
B. cin.get()? That serves no purpose.
C. You're using a namespace you douche.
D. You use namespace std but don't use stdio, smart one.

ummm. yes im using a namespace because in the iostream.h file, the cout property line is named #use std:cout or something like that but stf:cout was there.

and cin.get is also something in that file. im just using a template from Dev-C++.
Notepad2 & MinGW/MSYS >  Dev-C++ * 23712831982

Don't use namespaces, ever.  Period.  I don't care who tells you what, don't use them.
If you include iostream.h, then you don't need to do std::cout and std::endl, you can just use cout << endl; and it works.  cin.get() is absolutely useless and evil, I demand you remove it immediately.

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Re: C Shell :)
« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2005, 06:16:38 pm »
If rabbit's demand's aren't met, he'll likely drop a bomb on your house. :(

(Just kidding, but he is right lol).

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Re: C Shell :)
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2005, 10:20:48 am »
My cousin is 2nd Commander of the Pacific Fleet of the United States Navy.  That having been said, his name is Rob and he got married in Hawaii about 5 years ago, but we didn't go to the wedding for some reason (:'().  He used to be a nuclear submarine commander, but he got promoted for being awesome.


Nextlyness: I already know C++, but now I'm working on C.

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Re: C Shell :)
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2005, 11:25:15 am »
Wouldn't you know C if you really knew C++ well? It's the jump to C from C++ that's alot more difficult.
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[20:21:15] xar: that was funny

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Re: C Shell :)
« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2005, 12:04:44 pm »
Wouldn't you know C if you really knew C++ well? It's the jump to C++ from C that's alot more difficult.

Yes, you would. And you have your second sentence backwards. :)

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Re: C Shell :)
« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2005, 12:10:40 pm »
Yeah, I did. Damn me.
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[20:21:15] xar: that was funny

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Re: C Shell :)
« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2005, 05:11:39 pm »
I'm too used to being able to use classes, and there are some other differences between C and C++, it's just irritating getting 20 errors on compile because I forgot that I had to do 1 thing a different way.