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Started by Lead, November 03, 2008, 07:34:17 AM

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Blaze

Quote from: warz on February 17, 2009, 08:04:25 AM
triple xp? i'm only getting quest xp + what looks like about 75% of the quest xp as a bonus. damnit, can you really get triple by signing up for 2 months, or something?

Just sign up for a trial account, you don't need to buy the game or spend a dime.  Blizzard employees do this themselves.
And like a fool I believed myself, and thought I was somebody else...

MyndFyre

Quote from: warz on February 17, 2009, 08:04:25 AM
triple xp? i'm only getting quest xp + what looks like about 75% of the quest xp as a bonus. damnit, can you really get triple by signing up for 2 months, or something?
I did it and got trip xp.  It was mad.
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Furious

Quote from: warz on February 17, 2009, 08:04:25 AM
triple xp? i'm only getting quest xp + what looks like about 75% of the quest xp as a bonus. damnit, can you really get triple by signing up for 2 months, or something?

http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?articleId=20588

QuoteIs quest experience tripled, too?

Yes, but only if both veteran and recruit characters are present for quest completion and if the monster or quest is not marked as "Low Level" (typically gray in difficulty, though sometimes green) for either linked character.
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Hitmen

The only thing about it that sucks is ending up with characters on 2 accounts. my shaman is like 72 but if i want to play him i have to either pay for more time on that account or pay to transfer it to my main one.
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Furious

Quote from: Hitmen on February 17, 2009, 01:19:46 PM
The only thing about it that sucks is ending up with characters on 2 accounts. my shaman is like 72 but if i want to play him i have to either pay for more time on that account or pay to transfer it to my main one.

Tax returns ftw.  I'll be transferring whatever toons off the alternate account I've made as they hit 60.
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warz

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When you're saying triple experience, you're speaking in terms of both characters, right? Like, quest XP is tripled and then divided?

Is this how people really think of experience? I've always just referred to experience in relation to my single character, heh. Not that it has ever caused confusion before, though. When I heard triple experience I was expecting to see something like...

You've been given 1000 experience. (2000 from recruit-a-friend).

... now THAT would be mad. Yea, I'm receiving the "triple" experience, though. :P It is pretty awesome.
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Hitmen

Quote from: warz on February 17, 2009, 04:08:22 PM
When you're saying triple experience, you're speaking in terms of both characters, right? Like, quest XP is tripled and then divided?

Is this how people really think of experience? I've always just referred to experience in relation to my single character, heh. Not that it has ever caused confusion before, though. When I heard triple experience I was expecting to see something like...

You've been given 1000 experience. (2000 from recruit-a-friend).

... now THAT would be mad. Yea, I'm receiving the "triple" experience, though. :P It is pretty awesome.
No, both characters really get 3x the xp for everything. Or they should.
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warz

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Quote from: Hitmen on February 17, 2009, 04:55:31 PM
Quote from: warz on February 17, 2009, 04:08:22 PM
When you're saying triple experience, you're speaking in terms of both characters, right? Like, quest XP is tripled and then divided?

Is this how people really think of experience? I've always just referred to experience in relation to my single character, heh. Not that it has ever caused confusion before, though. When I heard triple experience I was expecting to see something like...

You've been given 1000 experience. (2000 from recruit-a-friend).

... now THAT would be mad. Yea, I'm receiving the "triple" experience, though. :P It is pretty awesome.
No, both characters really get 3x the xp for everything. Or they should.

Are you getting an actual 3x experience? I asked on the Blizzard forums and was told what I mentioned earlier: quest xp + bonus xp / 2 for both people. So, it's 3x the total experience if you combine it which I don't know why people would mention it that way since it's confusing and misleading sort of. This is what I'm being given, though.

Edit: Ah, a GM just responded and cleared it up. When it says the "You've been given 75 experience. (50 from recruit-a-friend).", the 75 is the total tripled amount, and the 50 just tells you that 50 of that 75 is bonus. That had me confused. I thought it was 75 normal xp, and 50 extra.
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Armin

Who the fuck says imbalanced?
Hitmen: art is gay

MyndFyre

Quote from: warz on February 17, 2009, 05:11:02 PM
Quote from: Hitmen on February 17, 2009, 04:55:31 PM
Quote from: warz on February 17, 2009, 04:08:22 PM
When you're saying triple experience, you're speaking in terms of both characters, right? Like, quest XP is tripled and then divided?

Is this how people really think of experience? I've always just referred to experience in relation to my single character, heh. Not that it has ever caused confusion before, though. When I heard triple experience I was expecting to see something like...

You've been given 1000 experience. (2000 from recruit-a-friend).

... now THAT would be mad. Yea, I'm receiving the "triple" experience, though. :P It is pretty awesome.
No, both characters really get 3x the xp for everything. Or they should.

Are you getting an actual 3x experience? I asked on the Blizzard forums and was told what I mentioned earlier: quest xp + bonus xp / 2 for both people. So, it's 3x the total experience if you combine it which I don't know why people would mention it that way since it's confusing and misleading sort of. This is what I'm being given, though.

Edit: Ah, a GM just responded and cleared it up. When it says the "You've been given 75 experience. (50 from recruit-a-friend).", the 75 is the total tripled amount, and the 50 just tells you that 50 of that 75 is bonus. That had me confused. I thought it was 75 normal xp, and 50 extra.
Monster killing XP is halved after being tripled so if a normal rested person gets 100xp for killing a mob, you'd get 300xp, except that being an group of 2 gets you 150xp.  That works for groups though, so if you kill an elite mob normally worth 800xp, you'd get 2400xp / 5 adjusted for group bonus, so it's freaking insane.  I dinged twice going through Deadmines with a 70 mag

Your quest XP is fully tripled because the quests don't look to see whether you're in a group, so a 5000xp quest returns 15000.  It generally means that completing ZF and its related quests will get you a total of four levels for one run-through of ZF.  (Your mileage may vary).
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warz

I don't think the quest bonuses work that way anymore. You don't currently get the bonuses if you're not partied with your recruited friend and within 100 yard of them. But, yea, me and my friend got 5 levels in Stockades in like 30 minutes using his 80 mage - leveled every run.
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MyndFyre

Quote from: warz on February 17, 2009, 07:04:15 PM
I don't think the quest bonuses work that way anymore. You don't currently get the bonuses if you're not partied with your recruited friend and within 100 yard of them. But, yea, me and my friend got 5 levels in Stockades in like 30 minutes using his 80 mage - leveled every run.
I'm sorry - I should have clarified.  You have to be partied with the person and within range.  But that's pretty much spelled out as how it's always worked.

WIA.
Quote from: Joe on January 23, 2011, 11:47:54 PM
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Furious

Quote from: warz on February 17, 2009, 07:04:15 PM
I don't think the quest bonuses work that way anymore. You don't currently get the bonuses if you're not partied with your recruited friend and within 100 yard of them. But, yea, me and my friend got 5 levels in Stockades in like 30 minutes using his 80 mage - leveled every run.

lrn2readFAQs
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warz

QuoteYour quest XP is fully tripled because the quests don't look to see whether you're in a group

That's what I was responding to.

Quote from: Furious on February 17, 2009, 10:16:02 PM
Quote from: warz on February 17, 2009, 07:04:15 PM
I don't think the quest bonuses work that way anymore. You don't currently get the bonuses if you're not partied with your recruited friend and within 100 yard of them. But, yea, me and my friend got 5 levels in Stockades in like 30 minutes using his 80 mage - leveled every run.

lrn2readFAQs

eh? What I said in that quote is still correct. :P
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Furious

Quote from: warz on February 18, 2009, 01:02:09 AM
QuoteYour quest XP is fully tripled because the quests don't look to see whether you're in a group

That's what I was responding to.

Quote from: Furious on February 17, 2009, 10:16:02 PM
Quote from: warz on February 17, 2009, 07:04:15 PM
I don't think the quest bonuses work that way anymore. You don't currently get the bonuses if you're not partied with your recruited friend and within 100 yard of them. But, yea, me and my friend got 5 levels in Stockades in like 30 minutes using his 80 mage - leveled every run.

lrn2readFAQs

eh? What I said in that quote is still correct. :P

Pretty positive it's always been the same way.

O_O

I do think it's pretty gay that only the recruited account can grant levels.  I've got about 13hrs /played at level 40.  Time to hit ZF for 40-50 tomorrow!
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