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Started by iago, January 05, 2009, 10:00:40 AM

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iago

http://xkcd.com/526/

I declare that guy an idiot (or somebody who lives somewhere warm).

Right now where I live, it's "Spit goes 'clink' cold", and that's a slightly cold winter day (and my spit doesn't go 'clink', I've tried). 

-5 = cold day in Moscow? Ha! If they're anything like here, -30 is a standard winter day. :)

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I thought it was funny. I guess if you don't use the metric system it's funny. :P
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Quote from: Rule on June 30, 2008, 01:13:20 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on June 30, 2008, 10:38:22 AM
I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

iago

It IS funny, but their temperatures sound like they were written by somebody from CA or FL, they needed a Canadian to go over them and tell them what "Cold" means. :)

Towelie

So, to a person from CA (aka me), it makes perfect sense. And I also just spent over an hour on xkcd lol.

iago

Quote from: Towelie on January 05, 2009, 01:24:53 PM
So, to a person from CA (aka me), it makes perfect sense.
But it's wrong!

-5 isn't a cold day is Moscow, and -10 isn't a cold day in Boston (or maybe it is). And -20 isn't FUCKFUCKFUCKCOLD. They need to bump everything about -15 - -20 lower. :)

Hitmen

Quote from: iago on January 05, 2009, 01:40:55 PM
But it's wrong!

-5 isn't a cold day is Moscow, and -10 isn't a cold day in Boston (or maybe it is). And -20 isn't FUCKFUCKFUCKCOLD. They need to bump everything about -15 - -20 lower. :)
I think the guy lives in Boston, but -10 is rather cold for here. We don't drop below 0 very often, our coldest days usually hover around it. Unless you are talking about celsius in which case I don't know what -10 is, but considering 0 = 32 it is probably still above 0F so not too terribly cold. :)
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OMFG AN ARTICLE OF HUMOR IS INACCURATE!

iago

Quote from: Hitmen on January 05, 2009, 02:08:56 PM
I think the guy lives in Boston, but -10 is rather cold for here. We don't drop below 0 very often, our coldest days usually hover around it. Unless you are talking about celsius in which case I don't know what -10 is, but considering 0 = 32 it is probably still above 0F so not too terribly cold. :)
It IS Celcius, that's the whole point of the comic. :)

A "cold day in boston" is 0F, according to you, which is ~-20C, thus proving my point. :D

Quote from: Sidoh on January 05, 2009, 02:15:42 PM
OMFG AN ARTICLE OF HUMOR IS INACCURATE!
The whole point of xkcd's humour is that it's generally accurate/factual. :P

I can suspend disbelief for the sake of humour, but not random inaccuracies! :P

Sidoh


zorm

Quote from: iago on January 05, 2009, 10:00:40 AM
Right now where I live, it's "Spit goes 'clink' cold", and that's a slightly cold winter day (and my spit doesn't go 'clink', I've tried). 

Clearly the problem here is that you aren't tall enough to provide the water sufficient time to freeze.

Lets say you spit 1 gram of water and its at the same temperature as your body (~37C)

So dQ = M*Cp*dT + M*L = 1/1000 * 4.18 * 37 + 1/1000 * 334000 = 334.15 J

So if you spit from a height of 2m you have 0.64 seconds before it hits the ground. Thus you need to remove ~523.03 J s^-1 to freeze the water before it hits the ground.

After this you can go ahead and compute how much energy the wind is removing from the air per second and such.
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iago

So, one of you math guys needs to calculate how long it takes a sphere with roughly the density of water to freeze!

I seem to recall a formula like pv/nrt for this kind of thing. Ring any bells? :)

Also, what if I spit at a 45 degree angle upwards, and manage to get it, say, 10 feet? That means it's spending significantly more time in the air.

Towelie

Quote from: iago on January 05, 2009, 09:28:41 PM
So, one of you math guys needs to calculate how long it takes a sphere with roughly the density of water to freeze!

I seem to recall a formula like pv/nrt for this kind of thing. Ring any bells? :)

Also, what if I spit at a 45 degree angle upwards, and manage to get it, say, 10 feet? That means it's spending significantly more time in the air.

Do you know what would be faster than using equations? :P

going outside and trying it ;)

deadly7

Quote from: zorm on January 05, 2009, 07:09:27 PM
Quote from: iago on January 05, 2009, 10:00:40 AM
Right now where I live, it's "Spit goes 'clink' cold", and that's a slightly cold winter day (and my spit doesn't go 'clink', I've tried). 

Clearly the problem here is that you aren't tall enough to provide the water sufficient time to freeze.

Lets say you spit 1 gram of water and its at the same temperature as your body (~37C)

So dQ = M*Cp*dT + M*L = 1/1000 * 4.18 * 37 + 1/1000 * 334000 = 334.15 J

So if you spit from a height of 2m you have 0.64 seconds before it hits the ground. Thus you need to remove ~523.03 J s^-1 to freeze the water before it hits the ground.

After this you can go ahead and compute how much energy the wind is removing from the air per second and such.


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Quote from: Towelie on January 05, 2009, 09:41:55 PM
Quote from: iago on January 05, 2009, 09:28:41 PM
So, one of you math guys needs to calculate how long it takes a sphere with roughly the density of water to freeze!

I seem to recall a formula like pv/nrt for this kind of thing. Ring any bells? :)

Also, what if I spit at a 45 degree angle upwards, and manage to get it, say, 10 feet? That means it's spending significantly more time in the air.

Do you know what would be faster than using equations? :P

going outside and trying it ;)
I already said, it doesn't work! I've tested in at least -40 or so, although we may dip below that tonight (I've heard rumours we might be hitting -50 (including windchill, of course)).