DVD to AVI?

[deadly7]

What software(s) do you guys use to rip a full dvd to an encoded AVI, MKV, or other format? Which format(s) do you prefer/why? I've got some DVDs I want to back up before they [eventually] die and am looking for some feedback..

[Armin]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVS_Video_Converter

[rabbit]

What software(s) do you guys use to rip a full dvd to an encoded AVI, MKV, or other format? Which format(s) do you prefer/why? I've got some DVDs I want to back up before they [eventually] die and am looking for some feedback..

Rip with DVDDecryptor, encode with MeGUI, contain with MKVMerge.

[Blaze]

Rip with DVDDecryptor, encode with MeGUI, contain with MKVMerge.

Vouch for the last two on this.

[deadly7]

Which container do you guys recommend? MKV or AVI? I've heard MKV has better compression ratios resulting in high-quality video while being a low-space format.

[Blaze]

MKV is feature enriched, whilst AVI has higher compatibility.

[deadly7]

MKV is feature enriched, whilst AVI has higher compatibility.

I'm super unfamiliar with video streams. Are there any features in MKV's that I would actually find myself using? Alternately: if I intend to play it off my computer with VLC, does it matter regarding an AVI's "compatibility"? The data I found suggest that if I'm going to hook up a comp to a TV via HDMI, MKV's are way better for showing HD video than are AVI's.

[Blaze]

If you're playing it on a PC, MKV is the way to go.

Also, http://www.matroska.org/technical/guides/faq/index.html

[Joe]

I haven't found a video format VLC can't play. MKV works fine.

As a side note, I use RipIt for ripping and HandBrake (I don't understand the name either) for converting. Alternatively RipIt just dumps it in a DVD format that works fine with both VLC and Apple's DVD Player app, but keeps the native file size which I don't like.

[rabbit]

HandBrake is garbage.  There are 2 ways to force a framerate, but neither work.  IVTC'ing a video is a pain in the ass, too.  No matter what you do, HandBrake will ALWAYS encode in VFR.  Screw HandBrake.

Which container do you guys recommend? MKV or AVI? I've heard MKV has better compression ratios resulting in high-quality video while being a low-space format.

The only time I use AVI is when I'm encoding video for my 360 (which I haven't done in a very long time) or when I plan to add hardsubs (also very rare), for which I use AVIMux.  I prefer MKV over AVI for various reasons which have all be stated, but mostly because of how flexible it is.  It's much easier (and requires a bit less space) to encode a video with multiple audio tracks in MKV.

[deadly7]

rabbit: MKV's have hardcoded subs too... i've downloaded a few that have had them. they also have a 'subtitle' option sometimes too, which is nifty. Or is this not normal?

[nslay]

mencoder from the mplayer suite.  It's quite technical to use but you can encode any format from any format.

I recommend not decrypting the DVD.  Laws like the DMCA specifically prohibit circumventing the protection schemes (fair use does not apply).  However, a lot of DVD backup software merely copies the raw DVD image without decrypting which arguably doesn't circumvent the protection schemes.

[rabbit]

mencoder from the mplayer suite.  It's quite technical to use but you can encode any format from any format.

I recommend not decrypting the DVD.  Laws like the DMCA specifically prohibit circumventing the protection schemes (fair use does not apply).  However, a lot of DVD backup software merely copies the raw DVD image without decrypting which arguably doesn't circumvent the protection schemes.

Actually, DMCA has been changed.  You're allowed to break encryption for fair use (CSS on DVDs to play them on Linux, for example).  It's totally legal do reencode.

[nslay]

mencoder from the mplayer suite.  It's quite technical to use but you can encode any format from any format.

I recommend not decrypting the DVD.  Laws like the DMCA specifically prohibit circumventing the protection schemes (fair use does not apply).  However, a lot of DVD backup software merely copies the raw DVD image without decrypting which arguably doesn't circumvent the protection schemes.

Actually, DMCA has been changed.  You're allowed to break encryption for fair use (CSS on DVDs to play them on Linux, for example).  It's totally legal do reencode.

It still looks illegal to me:
http://www.copyright.gov/1201/

That document was revised July 28, 2010.  No where are there clauses that permit circumventing copy protection for backups.  Those clauses are the only form of fair use.

[rabbit]

mencoder from the mplayer suite.  It's quite technical to use but you can encode any format from any format.

I recommend not decrypting the DVD.  Laws like the DMCA specifically prohibit circumventing the protection schemes (fair use does not apply).  However, a lot of DVD backup software merely copies the raw DVD image without decrypting which arguably doesn't circumvent the protection schemes.

Actually, DMCA has been changed.  You're allowed to break encryption for fair use (CSS on DVDs to play them on Linux, for example).  It's totally legal do reencode.

It still looks illegal to me:
http://www.copyright.gov/1201/

That document was revised July 28, 2010.  No where are there clauses that permit circumventing copy protection for backups.  Those clauses are the only form of fair use.

Close enough

[iago]

It's still legal in Canada!

... for the time being.

[Joe]

The DMCA changes allow decrypting DVDs for the purpose of using short clips for various reasons.

[rabbit]

So think of it as reencoding the entire movie for easy access to short clips later.

[deadly7]

Is DVD Decrypter free? I found the "original unofficial" mirror, but I'm a bit wary of random websites.

[rabbit]

Is DVD Decrypter free? I found the "original unofficial" mirror, but I'm a bit wary of random websites.

Yes it's free.

[deadly7]

MeGUI ripped some parts with audio but the main DVD files were ripped without an audio stream. There weren't any separate files for audio. I'm confused. The quality is beautiful though.

Edit: Re-ripping with LAME MP3 audio instead of AC3, hopefully that fixes it. I wonder if it was  VLC issue.

Edit2: So, audio works for the first 5-10 seconds (which is also the DVD load screen) but not for any of the movie.

?

[deadly7]

rabbit/blaze: can one of you two post your audio prefs? I'm using the One Click Encoder and I have video fine.

[rabbit]

The video and audio won't play together until you mux (MKVMerge), which is the final step.

Anyway, I sent you a PM.

[Joe]

<elitistjerk>
I can rip a DVD to an mkv in one step on my Mac.
</elitistjerk>

<comeback>
At least I don't need to get my PC's motherboard replaced after 8 months.
</comeback>

[rabbit]

<elitistjerk>
I can rip a DVD to an mkv in one step on my Mac.
</elitistjerk>

<comeback>
At least I don't need to get my PC's motherboard replaced after 8 months.
</comeback>

Does it do all the IVTC/encoding/muxing?  (Seriously, I don't know.)

[Joe]

I stick in a DVD, select which part I want (basically, pick the 2 hour part out from all the 1 minute ones) and hit a button, then I come back 30 minutes later to a ~700MB (that's a setting) AVI. I think that means yes, but I don't know.

[Newby]

HandBrake? (before it got rid of .avi)

[Joe]

Yes, HandBrake. And I lied, it's MP4, not AVI. But the big deal is getting from DVD to something else - once you're there it's simple.

[rabbit]

Once again, HandBrake is awful.

[MyndFyre]

<elitistjerk>
I can rip a DVD to an mkv in one step on my Mac.
</elitistjerk>

<comeback>
At least I don't need to get my PC's motherboard replaced after 8 months.
</comeback>

O RLY?  That's why I switched to Mac....

[Joe]

<elitistjerk>
I can rip a DVD to an mkv in one step on my Mac.
</elitistjerk>

<comeback>
At least I don't need to get my PC's motherboard replaced after 8 months.
</comeback>

O RLY?  That's why I switched to Mac....

I'm pretty sure this is an isolated incident, but occasionally when I game my graphics card derps out, the bottom half of the screen starts flashing and I lose all input except moving my mouse (can't click anything).

[Newby]

<elitistjerk>
I can rip a DVD to an mkv in one step on my Mac.
</elitistjerk>

<comeback>
At least I don't need to get my PC's motherboard replaced after 8 months.
</comeback>

O RLY?  That's why I switched to Mac....

QFT.

Joe: handbrake runs on Windows too (and runs better might I add) and I bought my MacBook Pro so that none of the hardware would die/be difficult to replace. =P

rabbit: Why is handbrake awful? Explain. It seems to do the trick. I even found guides for "properly" ripping (scene standards iirc? idk) with HandBrake!

[rabbit]

<elitistjerk>
I can rip a DVD to an mkv in one step on my Mac.
</elitistjerk>

<comeback>
At least I don't need to get my PC's motherboard replaced after 8 months.
</comeback>

O RLY?  That's why I switched to Mac....

QFT.

Joe: handbrake runs on Windows too (and runs better might I add) and I bought my MacBook Pro so that none of the hardware would die/be difficult to replace. =P

rabbit: Why is handbrake awful? Explain. It seems to do the trick. I even found guides for "properly" ripping (scene standards iirc? idk) with HandBrake!

It is literally impossible to get HandBrake to encode at 23.976 fps (actually, any fps: it will always do FVR), despite there being 2 different ways you're supposed to be able to.  I asked one of the HandBrake devs about it a while back and he basically said "who cares?  go away now."  So screw him.

[Joe]

At the risk of sounding like a retard, why would you want to encode specifically at 23.976 fps? I realize that's NTSC (or PAL?) but it should play fine anyhow.

[deadly7]

At the risk of sounding like a retard, why would you want to encode specifically at 23.976 fps? I realize that's NTSC (or PAL?) but it should play fine anyhow.

I don't know about professional movie-level cameras, but I know when I used to work for a middle-end television studio the cameras record at certain frames per second. Trying to play at another rate can distort the video and is usually accomplished by a software speed up/slow down; very noticable in movies/video that incorporates lots of camera movement (e.g. Transformers)

[Newby]

At the risk of sounding like a retard, why would you want to encode specifically at 23.976 fps? I realize that's NTSC (or PAL?) but it should play fine anyhow.

I'm no good with movie ripping, but my guess is that improper rips that have un-sync'd audio are because of a non-constant frame rate. But I completely made that up.

[rabbit]

At the risk of sounding like a retard, why would you want to encode specifically at 23.976 fps? I realize that's NTSC (or PAL?) but it should play fine anyhow.

Because industry standard for film is 24000/1001 frames per second so audio at 48KHz will be synced.  30000/1001 is for Video (both are NTSC) with 60HKz audio.