Who has met whom

[CrAz3D]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmLQaTcViOA

laugh tracks are lame as shit. studio audiences FTW. also, I still laughed out loud during parts of that clip.

and while, yes, sheldon goes from douche to "human" to douche in the next episode, one has to remember that this is television. one also has to remember that real people do the exact same thing, so it isn't too absurd for someone to be nice one day and a dick the next and then nice and then a dick and then nice and then...you get the point

Modern Family, though, is probably the best primetime comedy/sitcom being produced.

Modern Family is good. I like BBT more. :P

You let things bother you too much.

When I watch TV/movies for entertainment, I don't try to look for stilted dialogue and caricatures of characters, but they stand out so much in BBT. As far as characters go, there's only so many times I can watch people be living stereotypes before it becomes ludicrous.

guess you dont watch Tyler Perry stuff. if a white dude made a show (or 25 different shows about the same thing) about black people being stereotypically black, there would be race riots (much like there currently are as a result of the whole Taryvon Martin thing).
TV shows have stereotypes because stereotypes are real traits and people identify with that (ie reality)


Lawyer stereotypes: substances abuse, argumentative, arrogant, disregard for "right v. wrong" over winning.
Me: check, check, check, check (and an ish too all of those, but yeah)

stereotypes are real in that they are an over-generalization of things, but are nevertheless a generalization of things. stereotypes are true as can be.

[deadly7]

laugh tracks are lame as shit. studio audiences FTW. also, I still laughed out loud during parts of that clip.

All canned laughter sucks. I absolutely hate it. I don't need a television show to tell me what's funny, I can decide that for myself.

and while, yes, sheldon goes from douche to "human" to douche in the next episode, one has to remember that this is television. one also has to remember that real people do the exact same thing, so it isn't too absurd for someone to be nice one day and a dick the next and then nice and then a dick and then nice and then...you get the point

I wasn't talking about his mood.

Modern Family, though, is probably the best primetime comedy/sitcom being produced.

First agreeable thing you've said.

guess you dont watch Tyler Perry stuff. if a white dude made a show (or 25 different shows about the same thing) about black people being stereotypically black, there would be race riots (much like there currently are as a result of the whole Taryvon Martin thing).
TV shows have stereotypes because stereotypes are real traits and people identify with that (ie reality)


Lawyer stereotypes: substances abuse, argumentative, arrogant, disregard for "right v. wrong" over winning.
Me: check, check, check, check (and an ish too all of those, but yeah)

stereotypes are real in that they are an over-generalization of things, but are nevertheless a generalization of things. stereotypes are true as can be.

I think it's good that someone is presenting the "black" side to television, and clearly there's an audience for him if he's been that successful financially. It disgusts me how every major motion picture, unless it's one that historically needs a black person (see: slavery films, gangster films, etc.), has a 'white person [or will smith]' leading role consensus. If Perry helps erode those walls, then I'm all for him. I just find him uninspired and not funny.

[CrAz3D]

what's the diff between realization/wad?

also, re: black dudes in movies, I offer: Morgan Freeman, Samuel L Jackson, Forest Whitaker, Will Smith (yeah, you said that), Denzel Washington, ... and now I have to resort to IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/list/UVJkkkg6lnc/ (not gonna lie; of the top 10, I didn't know the two chicks)

[Sidoh]

I'll admit that I like the characters in Modern Family more. It's a quality show, and I can recognize that the writing, acting, and production of Modern Family is superior in quality. I just like BBT because it's a show about nerds. Even if I think it's ridiculous most times, it still tickles me in a way most shows never could.

[deadly7]

also, re: black dudes in movies, I offer: Morgan Freeman, Samuel L Jackson, Forest Whitaker, Will Smith (yeah, you said that), Denzel Washington, ... and now I have to resort to IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/list/UVJkkkg6lnc/ (not gonna lie; of the top 10, I didn't know the two chicks)

You're missing the point entirely. There are black actors in Hollywood, I never disputed that. My point is that the movies where black guys are cast for leading roles can be broken down as follows: historically necessary (e.g. Denzel Washington cast as the historical black gangster in "American Gangster"); action heroes (e.g. Samuel L Jackson as Mace Windu; supporting characters (e.g. Morgan Freeman as God, or Lucius Fox). Very rarely are there movies that feature black guys in leading roles, even if race has absolutely no part in the story. Will Smith is the only exception.

For more, see: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2011/03/will-smith-black-actors-denzel-washington-anthony-mackie-discrimination.html

[iago]

also, re: black dudes in movies, I offer: Morgan Freeman, Samuel L Jackson, Forest Whitaker, Will Smith (yeah, you said that), Denzel Washington, ... and now I have to resort to IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/list/UVJkkkg6lnc/ (not gonna lie; of the top 10, I didn't know the two chicks)

You're missing the point entirely. There are black actors in Hollywood, I never disputed that. My point is that the movies where black guys are cast for leading roles can be broken down as follows: historically necessary (e.g. Denzel Washington cast as the historical black gangster in "American Gangster"); action heroes (e.g. Samuel L Jackson as Mace Windu; supporting characters (e.g. Morgan Freeman as God, or Lucius Fox). Very rarely are there movies that feature black guys in leading roles, even if race has absolutely no part in the story. Will Smith is the only exception.

For more, see: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2011/03/will-smith-black-actors-denzel-washington-anthony-mackie-discrimination.html

I'm too old for this shit.

<edit> Also, you seem to be making a point, then qualifying it so much that the point is totally useless. "There are no black guys in movies except the following huge list of exceptions, ..."

[deadly7]

<edit> Also, you seem to be making a point, then qualifying it so much that the point is totally useless. "There are no black guys in movies except the following huge list of exceptions, ..."

You misunderstood completely. I'm saying there is a very finite number of exceptions in which current Hollywood films star black people. Your average movie is not going to have a black lead. Let's look through the current movies in theaters: http://www.imdb.com/showtimes/
The movies I see starring blacks (though this last will probably vary based on theaters near you):
Marley - a documentary on Bob Marley. Falls exactly into the category of "needs a black man for even a shred of legitimacy"
No One is Safe - an action flick starring Denzel Washington
Tyler Perry's Good Deeds - a story about a businessman and one of his office staff
Think Like A Man - a pg13 rom com

I count 4/48. Of those, I say 3 of the 4 could be written for either a black or white lead, with the obvious exception being Bob Marley's documentary (because who the hell would go see a documentary about Bob Marley starring some white dude?). Of the remaining 3, I contend the last two matter more because those roles tend to require better acting ability. So the number of films in which a black person is cast to be a leading actor is quite small. Even if you remove all the remakes/re-broadcasts, animated films, historical films,  and movies based off books, the number of movies in which white people are cast as leading actors is much greater.

[Sidoh]

lol, 'very finite'.

[deadly7]

lol, 'very finite'.

It's even more finite than expected!

If it isn't already obvious I don't proofread my forum posts.

[Sidoh]

Haha. I just think it's funny. Of course I know what you mean. :)

[while1]

Come Friday around lunch time, we'll have another edge to add! 

while1 -- Myndfyre



LOL, if this was a graph of sexual partners, its clear as day who the sluttiest manwhore is ;).

[Blaze]

LOL, if this was a graph of sexual partners, its clear as day who the sluttiest manwhore is ;).

Sidoh?

[MyndFyre]

Oddly enough, I never met MM even though we probably lived ~50 miles apart.

[iago]

Oddly enough, I never met MM even though we probably lived ~50 miles apart.

I've never met him despite having plans to go to a concert together, and also go for coffee together. So close. :(

[Newby]

Oddly enough, I never met MM even though we probably lived ~50 miles apart.

And oddly enough, I only lived in Arizona part-time and met both of you. Noobs.