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Towelie

Quote from: iago on January 20, 2010, 09:59:33 PM
Quote from: Towelie on January 20, 2010, 08:55:27 PM
Quote from: iago on January 20, 2010, 04:29:14 PM
Protein, especially from animals, is linked to all kinds of diseases (from brain stuff to heart disease to a bunch of types of cancer). In small amounts, it's required and beneficial, but in the amount eaten by the average American/Canadian, it's dangerously unhealthy.

I'm sure I've posted that before. :)

Well, I consume more whey protein than animal protein, so I'm good to go?
Whey = milk = animal. Sorry. :P

Milk isn't an animal! So I call shenanigans
I'm sure there's whey protein in human milk too.

iago

Quote from: Towelie on January 21, 2010, 07:29:37 AM
Quote from: iago on January 20, 2010, 09:59:33 PM
Quote from: Towelie on January 20, 2010, 08:55:27 PM
Quote from: iago on January 20, 2010, 04:29:14 PM
Protein, especially from animals, is linked to all kinds of diseases (from brain stuff to heart disease to a bunch of types of cancer). In small amounts, it's required and beneficial, but in the amount eaten by the average American/Canadian, it's dangerously unhealthy.

I'm sure I've posted that before. :)

Well, I consume more whey protein than animal protein, so I'm good to go?
Whey = milk = animal. Sorry. :P

Milk isn't an animal! So I call shenanigans
I'm sure there's whey protein in human milk too.
Milk is still animal-based, though.

Small amounts of protein are fine and healthy. Your body is designed to drink human milk for the first ~5 years of life, and it's completely beneficial.

Your body isn't designed to consume milk from other animals, though, and not when you're older. And to editorialize a bit, I don't know how people CAN drink milk from animals without gagging. The whole concept is nasty. :)


warz

Quote from: iago on January 21, 2010, 08:26:28 AM
Quote from: Towelie on January 21, 2010, 07:29:37 AM
Quote from: iago on January 20, 2010, 09:59:33 PM
Quote from: Towelie on January 20, 2010, 08:55:27 PM
Quote from: iago on January 20, 2010, 04:29:14 PM
Protein, especially from animals, is linked to all kinds of diseases (from brain stuff to heart disease to a bunch of types of cancer). In small amounts, it's required and beneficial, but in the amount eaten by the average American/Canadian, it's dangerously unhealthy.

I'm sure I've posted that before. :)

Well, I consume more whey protein than animal protein, so I'm good to go?
Whey = milk = animal. Sorry. :P

Milk isn't an animal! So I call shenanigans
I'm sure there's whey protein in human milk too.
Milk is still animal-based, though.

Small amounts of protein are fine and healthy. Your body is designed to drink human milk for the first ~5 years of life, and it's completely beneficial.

Your body isn't designed to consume milk from other animals, though, and not when you're older. And to editorialize a bit, I don't know how people CAN drink milk from animals without gagging. The whole concept is nasty. :)

You're one of those freakish people aren't you?
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Sidoh

Quote from: iago on January 21, 2010, 08:26:28 AM
Your body isn't designed to consume milk from other animals, though, and not when you're older. And to editorialize a bit, I don't know how people CAN drink milk from animals without gagging. The whole concept is nasty. :)

I don't know how people CAN eat onions without gagging.  The whole concept is nasty.

Quote from: warz on January 21, 2010, 10:37:48 AM
You're one of those freakish people aren't you?

A smelly vegan hippie?  Yup.  Well, I don't think he's smelly, and he doesn't really look like a hippie... where have you been for the last two years?

iago

Quote from: warz on January 21, 2010, 10:37:48 AM
You're one of those freakish people aren't you?
You just noticed? :P

Quote from: Sidoh on January 21, 2010, 11:13:01 AM
I don't know how people CAN eat onions without gagging.  The whole concept is nasty.
Entirely different! At least eating onions is sort of natural. :)

Quote from: Sidoh on January 21, 2010, 11:13:01 AM
A smelly vegan hippie?  Yup.  Well, I don't think he's smelly, and he doesn't really look like a hippie... where have you been for the last two years?
Thanks, I think?

Blaze

What's wrong with onions?  Next you'll be saying garlic is bad!  For shame, Sigh Dough!
And like a fool I believed myself, and thought I was somebody else...

Hitmen

milk tastes awful, isn't that enough?
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Sidoh

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Quote from: iago on January 21, 2010, 12:35:25 PM
Entirely different! At least eating onions is sort of natural. :)

Everything is "natural."  I don't buy the "natural" argument under any circumstances.  "natural" is not intrinsically good.  next you're going to be telling me the gays are immoral because they're having unnatural sex.

Quote from: Hitmen on January 21, 2010, 12:46:36 PM
milk tastes awful, isn't that enough?

that's a fantastic reason to not drink milk.

Quote from: Blaze on January 21, 2010, 12:36:33 PM
What's wrong with onions?  Next you'll be saying garlic is bad!  For shame, Sigh Dough!

I think onions are just one of these things that I've had more that one bad experience with.  Maybe the kind where you eat something and get sick soon afterward, and then you hate the thing you ate.

Garlic is okay in moderation, but too much is nearly as disgusting as onions.

I don't find the taste of either gross (although they're not pleasant), but I think that they tend to distract from flavors that I find better (for example, dressing in salads, etc.)  I'm also vehemently against having a flavor lingering in my mouth for days at a time.

Towelie

Quote from: iago on January 21, 2010, 08:26:28 AM
Quote from: Towelie on January 21, 2010, 07:29:37 AM
Quote from: iago on January 20, 2010, 09:59:33 PM
Quote from: Towelie on January 20, 2010, 08:55:27 PM
Quote from: iago on January 20, 2010, 04:29:14 PM
Protein, especially from animals, is linked to all kinds of diseases (from brain stuff to heart disease to a bunch of types of cancer). In small amounts, it's required and beneficial, but in the amount eaten by the average American/Canadian, it's dangerously unhealthy.

I'm sure I've posted that before. :)

Well, I consume more whey protein than animal protein, so I'm good to go?
Whey = milk = animal. Sorry. :P

Milk isn't an animal! So I call shenanigans
I'm sure there's whey protein in human milk too.
Milk is still animal-based, though.

Small amounts of protein are fine and healthy. Your body is designed to drink human milk for the first ~5 years of life, and it's completely beneficial.

Your body isn't designed to consume milk from other animals, though, and not when you're older. And to editorialize a bit, I don't know how people CAN drink milk from animals without gagging. The whole concept is nasty. :)


Have you ever considered that some people (who don't sit on the grass, hold hands, and sing kumbaya) who get physical activity might need more protein? ;P
And how do you automatically categorize whey protein as having the same negative effects, assuming there are, as milk?

Blaze

If your definition of need more-so fits with the category of wants.
And like a fool I believed myself, and thought I was somebody else...

Towelie

Quote from: Blaze on January 21, 2010, 02:07:26 PM
If your definition of need more-so fits with the category of wants.
Need is a very open ended word. It depends on what you need it for. We don't really need anything, since we don't really NEED to live.

iago

Quote from: Towelie on January 21, 2010, 02:05:32 PM
Have you ever considered that some people (who don't sit on the grass, hold hands, and sing kumbaya) who get physical activity might need more protein? ;P
And how do you automatically categorize whey protein as having the same negative effects, assuming there are, as milk?
Yes, our bodies need protein. And if you're treating your body the way nature designed it, the protein you get from your food is enough.

Vegetable-based protein is what's best for the body, and it doesn't come with the strings attached that animal protein is. Animal protein is protein that's created by animals. Eating protein created by animals in small amounts is ok, but too much increases your risk of bad stuff.

Towelie

Quote from: iago on January 21, 2010, 03:00:09 PM
Quote from: Towelie on January 21, 2010, 02:05:32 PM
Have you ever considered that some people (who don't sit on the grass, hold hands, and sing kumbaya) who get physical activity might need more protein? ;P
And how do you automatically categorize whey protein as having the same negative effects, assuming there are, as milk?
Yes, our bodies need protein. And if you're treating your body the way nature designed it, the protein you get from your food is enough.

Vegetable-based protein is what's best for the body, and it doesn't come with the strings attached that animal protein is. Animal protein is protein that's created by animals. Eating protein created by animals in small amounts is ok, but too much increases your risk of bad stuff.

"Treating your body the way nature designed it", could you elaborate on this? To me this phrase seems ambiguous.

So... the protein we make ourselves... is bad for ourselves?

Sidoh

Quote from: iago on January 21, 2010, 03:00:09 PM
treating your body the way nature designed it

fuck that.  i want everyone to gorge themselves on meat.  that way, we'll naturally select to eventually produce badass carnivores.

Towelie

Quote from: Sidoh on January 21, 2010, 04:10:55 PM
Quote from: iago on January 21, 2010, 03:00:09 PM
treating your body the way nature designed it

fuck that.  i want everyone to gorge themselves on meat.  that way, we'll naturally select to eventually produce badass carnivores.
Hahaha, I second this.