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Re: Windows Worm knocks down corporations
« Reply #30 on: August 22, 2005, 06:49:53 pm »
Software companies are corperations, too. The second one was meant at all companies, as an alternative to Windows. First one was specifically from the business point-of-view: Would it make sense to use Linux? If your business is based around Windows programs, that's most likely not a path for you.
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Re: Windows Worm knocks down corporations
« Reply #31 on: August 23, 2005, 02:45:26 am »
Your crazy Newby if you think someone actually installs all the security updates and jazz by hand for companys.  You do it once, make an image of that harddrive, and then just use that image on all the other ones.
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Re: Windows Worm knocks down corporations
« Reply #32 on: August 23, 2005, 07:47:39 am »
Your crazy Newby if you think someone actually installs all the security updates and jazz by hand for companys.  You do it once, make an image of that harddrive, and then just use that image on all the other ones.

Or you use tools like CA Unicenter or WSUS or others. 

For patching corporations, the problem isn't actually rolling out the patches, it's compatibility issues.  Windows patches tend to do things that Microsoft doesn't tell us, and occasionally it conflicts with installed software.  So before patches are rolled out, they have to be tested.  That leaves a window for worms.  As soon as we see an exploit, we tell them to hurry up and get the patch out.  If we see a worm, like last Monday, we tell them to put on the patch _NOW_. 

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Re: Windows Worm knocks down corporations
« Reply #33 on: August 25, 2005, 06:19:28 am »
Your crazy Newby if you think someone actually installs all the security updates and jazz by hand for companys.  You do it once, make an image of that harddrive, and then just use that image on all the other ones.

Or you use tools like CA Unicenter or WSUS or others. 

For patching corporations, the problem isn't actually rolling out the patches, it's compatibility issues.  Windows patches tend to do things that Microsoft doesn't tell us, and occasionally it conflicts with installed software.  So before patches are rolled out, they have to be tested.  That leaves a window for worms.  As soon as we see an exploit, we tell them to hurry up and get the patch out.  If we see a worm, like last Monday, we tell them to put on the patch _NOW_. 
Yeah, which they do neither of. :(

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Re: Windows Worm knocks down corporations
« Reply #34 on: August 25, 2005, 08:51:50 am »
Your crazy Newby if you think someone actually installs all the security updates and jazz by hand for companys.  You do it once, make an image of that harddrive, and then just use that image on all the other ones.

Or you use tools like CA Unicenter or WSUS or others. 

For patching corporations, the problem isn't actually rolling out the patches, it's compatibility issues.  Windows patches tend to do things that Microsoft doesn't tell us, and occasionally it conflicts with installed software.  So before patches are rolled out, they have to be tested.  That leaves a window for worms.  As soon as we see an exploit, we tell them to hurry up and get the patch out.  If we see a worm, like last Monday, we tell them to put on the patch _NOW_. 
Yeah, which they do neither of. :(

Which "they" are you talking about?

If you mean the people we tell to patch, then yes, it gets done.  Being in a security department, we have some level of influence.

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Re: Windows Worm knocks down corporations
« Reply #35 on: August 25, 2005, 09:13:34 am »
Your crazy Newby if you think someone actually installs all the security updates and jazz by hand for companys.  You do it once, make an image of that harddrive, and then just use that image on all the other ones.

Or you use tools like CA Unicenter or WSUS or others. 

For patching corporations, the problem isn't actually rolling out the patches, it's compatibility issues.  Windows patches tend to do things that Microsoft doesn't tell us, and occasionally it conflicts with installed software.  So before patches are rolled out, they have to be tested.  That leaves a window for worms.  As soon as we see an exploit, we tell them to hurry up and get the patch out.  If we see a worm, like last Monday, we tell them to put on the patch _NOW_. 
Yeah, which they do neither of. :(

Which "they" are you talking about?

If you mean the people we tell to patch, then yes, it gets done.  Being in a security department, we have some level of influence.
I was talking about Microsoft, and their updates.