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Started by Nate, December 06, 2005, 07:18:39 PM

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Nate

You guys seem to like these riddles so here it  goes.  You place a perfectly spherical ball on a  2m ramp with an incline of 65 degrees.  Both the ramp and the ball are frictionless.  At what velocity is the ball rolling when it reaches the bottom of the ramp? 

Sidoh

Since I used MathType for all of my equasions, I typed it in MS Word and saved it as a .html page:

http://www.sidoh.org/school/Physics/Physics_Problem.htm

rabbit

Sidoh, gimme mathtype.

Anyways, numbers confirmed.

Sidoh

Quote from: rabbit on December 06, 2005, 07:53:17 PM
Sidoh, gimme mathtype.

Anyways, numbers confirmed.

http://sidoh.dark-wire.net/Files/MathType52Setup.exe

It's a free trial edition.  I never found a crack that worked, so I just used the toned down version that it reverts to after 30 days.  It works fine for almost everything unless you're a seroius mathematician. :)

I'll move this to 'Solved Riddles' once Nate confirms it's the correct answer.  I'm still a bit eery on the whole "frictionless" thing.

Blaze

Wait... did you just do his homework...?
And like a fool I believed myself, and thought I was somebody else...

Nate

#5
Sidoh got it right.  Although all that work wasn't required.  The ball will slide down the ramp not roll if it is frictionless.

Sidoh

Quote from: Nate on December 06, 2005, 09:12:05 PM
Sidoh got it right.  Although all that work wasn't required.  The ball will slide down the ramp not roll if it is frictionless.

Then the answer would be different.  If rotational kinetic energy exists, the center-of-mass magnitude will decrease.

Here's the correct answer (though I like my other one more since it's more practical):



Saying it was frictionless took all the fun out of it. :(

iago

Quote from: Nate on December 06, 2005, 09:12:05 PM
Sidoh got it right.  Although all that work wasn't required.  The ball will slide down the ramp not roll if it is frictionless.

Damnit, I was going to say it would slide :)

Sidoh

Quote from: iago on December 06, 2005, 10:54:20 PM
Damnit, I was going to say it would slide :)

I kind of figured it would, but I couldn't pass up on the oportunity to play with rotational kinetic energy. :)

Towelie

hopefully my phisics class next year eases into this :)

Sidoh

Quote from: Toweliex86] link=topic=4041.msg43049#msg43049 date=1133929088]
hopefully my phisics class next year eases into this :)

This isn't hard stuff, it's all algebra!

Sidoh

Moving this to solved.

There are other interesting problems like this.  You don't have to ignore friction, either!  It makes things a lot more interesting.  :)

One of the problems we did today was how much thermal energy is generated from a book that is pushed at a certain velocity and stops after a certain distance.  It was pretty interesting seeing the numbers behind friction. :)

Nate

Quote from: Sidoh on December 06, 2005, 09:31:02 PM
Saying it was frictionless took all the fun out of it. :(

For you maybe but its quite enjoyable for me to watch you do all that work for nothing.

Sidoh

Quote from: Nate on December 07, 2005, 03:21:06 PM
For you maybe but its quite enjoyable for me to watch you do all that work for nothing.

Not for nothing!

It was a good representation of rotational kinetic energy! :]

iago

Btw, everybody who posts a physics problem should give it a good name.  I'm never sure which physics problem is which, so I usually don't look at any of them :)