More Microsoft Licensing fun!

[Warrior]

x86] link=topic=4960.msg57436#msg57436 date=1140905586]
But replacing the motherboard is basically replacing a new PC. I mean withought the Mobo..well you know..it isn't "Mother" for nothing.

But it's not.  You may have to re-install the operating system in order to re-instate drivers, but it's not replacing the PC.  A motherboard can be as inexpensive as $40 (cheaper, if you look hard enough).  That's pretty far from the whole PC.

You're replacing one of the most crucial PC parts..

[Sidoh]

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You're replacing one of the most crucial PC parts..

But it's not a whole new PC.  It doesn't matter how crucial the part is.  In fact, I'd consider several other components equally important.  The CPU, Memory and Hard drive are vital for the performance of the computer.  There's no reason that replacing any one component of the computer should vindicate the requirement for a repurchace of a software license.  I can understand their security measures, but once this is confirmed, I believe they should re-validate the software at no charge.

[Warrior]

Generally if you buy an OEM edition it's meant to be bundled with something like a Dell.
Now if you update the Mobo for anything other than a defect then PC is no longer either accepted by Dell Warranty nor is it a Valid OEM license since it isn't the original hardware the OEM was shipped with. This is because Windows is sold to companies at a reduced price and they dont want people just transfering Windows (Like you can do with FPP).
If you usually have the need to upgrade a mobo, you have Windows FPP and not OEM. Really, this is meant for buying these types of PCs in bulk for something like an office or a school.

[Sidoh]

x86] link=topic=4960.msg57467#msg57467 date=1140910931]
Generally if you buy an OEM edition it's meant to be bundled with something like a Dell.
Now if you update the Mobo for anything other than a defect then PC is no longer either accepted by Dell Warranty nor is it a Valid OEM license since it isn't the original hardware the OEM was shipped with. This is because Windows is sold to companies at a reduced price and they dont want people just transfering Windows (Like you can do with FPP).
If you usually have the need to upgrade a mobo, you have Windows FPP and not OEM. Really, this is meant for buying these types of PCs in bulk for something like an office or a school.

I know why they do it.  I'm not disagreeing with it.  I'm disagreeing with their "If it breaks, you're fucked.  Buy the OS again." attitude.

[Warrior]

In the .rtf it mentioned "Defective motherboard" not sure if that covers it become damaged overtime and needing a replacement though.

[Sidoh]

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In the .rtf it mentioned "Defective motherboard" not sure if that covers it become damaged overtime and needing a replacement though.

I've almost had to upgrade motherboards (because of the lack of a wanted/required feature) more than I've had to replace due to failure.  Again, I completely agree with their security measures, but I completely disagree that they will not make exceptions for instances that are due to "Acts of God" (catchall for power-surge, degeneration, etc).

[Warrior]

I agree it's pretty lame if they don't, all the times I've said that I've gotten it activated. Well except for onetime, then I just told him I was going to find a serial on the internet and hungup.

[Ergot]

x86] link=topic=4960.msg57544#msg57544 date=1140938971]
Well except for onetime, then I just told him I was going to find a serial on the internet and hungup.

lol gg. Record it next time :P

[Sidoh]

x86] link=topic=4960.msg57544#msg57544 date=1140938971]
I agree it's pretty lame if they don't, all the times I've said that I've gotten it activated. Well except for onetime, then I just told him I was going to find a serial on the internet and hungup.

I think it's probably different when you have to tell them you're using the OEM version.  Maybe I'm wrong, though. :)

Haha @ hanging up on Microsoft telling them that when they have all of your information. :)

[Warrior]

They didnt really get much info hard to remember though.

[Joe]

How about if the OS keeps track of what you replace, and when you have replaced the original equipment it'll stop working :O why didn't they think of that eh?!

They have.  Have you ever worked on one of the newer (last 4 years or so) retail computers?  By retail, I mean Dell, Gateway, eMachines, etc.

Uhh... I've never worked extensively with them, I have replaced a CD drive on a Dell PC. Pain the ass .

I've replaced a two CD drives, a hard drive, a modem, and added a video card to my Dell PC. Oddly enough, the only thing that required a reinstall was the modem. ^_-

EDIT -

The CPU, Memory and Hard drive are vital for the performance of the computer.

Commodore 128 didn't have a hard drive, but it was still awesome.

[iago]

How about if the OS keeps track of what you replace, and when you have replaced the original equipment it'll stop working :O why didn't they think of that eh?!

They have.  Have you ever worked on one of the newer (last 4 years or so) retail computers?  By retail, I mean Dell, Gateway, eMachines, etc.

Uhh... I've never worked extensively with them, I have replaced a CD drive on a Dell PC. Pain the ass .

I've replaced a two CD drives, a hard drive, a modem, and added a video card to my Dell PC. Oddly enough, the only thing that required a reinstall was the modem. ^_-

You didn't have to reinstall when you changed your harddrive?  How did you pull THAT off, exactly?

[deadly7]

Maybe he replaced something that wasn't C:\?

[Ergot]

Umm, I don't know but the Dell I worked on had these anti-screwdriver covers over their screws. Unfortunately they were flexible enough to allow my screwdriver in, barely though; it was all slanted and stuff.

[Sidoh]

Commodore 128 didn't have a hard drive, but it was still awesome.

Who cares?  That's not even close to being related to this topic.