Heads roll at Microsoft

[iago]

After the most recent delay, Microsoft put a new executive in charge of future Windows projects.  In addition, they replaced several other managers.  (source)

They've Replaced a whole bunch of managers when a project is almost done, and they added a bunch of new people to the project team.  We've been told over and over in different software engineering/project management courses that those are incredibly dumb things to do.  I'm starting to wonder if Microsoft is completely screwing itself by making these moves, but I guess we'll see !

[GameSnake]

We can only hope so, god I love seeing rich white people burn.

[MyndFyre]

We can only hope so, god I love seeing rich white people burn.

You're seriously an asshole.

After the most recent delay, Microsoft put a new executive in charge of future Windows projects.  In addition, they replaced several other managers.  (source)

They've Replaced a whole bunch of managers when a project is almost done, and they added a bunch of new people to the project team.  We've been told over and over in different software engineering/project management courses that those are incredibly dumb things to do.  I'm starting to wonder if Microsoft is completely screwing itself by making these moves, but I guess we'll see !

What's funny is that they say the same thing in their books (like Code Complete and Rapid Development) - these things are not good practices.

We'll see how things go.

[iago]

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What's funny is that they say the same thing in their books (like Code Complete and Rapid Development) - these things are not good practices.

We'll see how things go.

Exactly!  In my Project Management class we had a whole chapter on what NOT to do if your project is behind schedule.  They're doing pretty much everything we learned not to do.  Who's coming up with these ideas?

[deadly7]

Exactly!  In my Project Management class we had a whole chapter on what NOT to do if your project is behind schedule.  They're doing pretty much everything we learned not to do.  Who's coming up with these ideas?

Jobs snuck into Microsoft and sent out a memo.

[GameSnake]

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We can only hope so, god I love seeing rich white people burn.

You're seriously an asshole.

After the most recent delay, Microsoft put a new executive in charge of future Windows projects.  In addition, they replaced several other managers.  (source)

They've Replaced a whole bunch of managers when a project is almost done, and they added a bunch of new people to the project team.  We've been told over and over in different software engineering/project management courses that those are incredibly dumb things to do.  I'm starting to wonder if Microsoft is completely screwing itself by making these moves, but I guess we'll see !

What's funny is that they say the same thing in their books (like Code Complete and Rapid Development) - these things are not good practices.

We'll see how things go.

Why am I an asshole? Microsoft is doing it to themselves!

I'm starting to wonder if Microsoft is completely screwing itself by making these moves, but I guess we'll see !

[AntiVirus]

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We can only hope so, god I love seeing rich white people burn.

You're seriously an asshole.

After the most recent delay, Microsoft put a new executive in charge of future Windows projects.  In addition, they replaced several other managers.  (source)

They've Replaced a whole bunch of managers when a project is almost done, and they added a bunch of new people to the project team.  We've been told over and over in different software engineering/project management courses that those are incredibly dumb things to do.  I'm starting to wonder if Microsoft is completely screwing itself by making these moves, but I guess we'll see !

What's funny is that they say the same thing in their books (like Code Complete and Rapid Development) - these things are not good practices.

We'll see how things go.

Why am I an asshole? Microsoft is doing it to themselves!

I'm starting to wonder if Microsoft is completely screwing itself by making these moves, but I guess we'll see !

Because you like to watch people "burn"?

[GameSnake]

Figure-of-speech.

[MyndFyre]

Why am I an asshole? Microsoft is doing it to themselves!

We can only hope so, god I love seeing rich white people burn.

[Warrior]

After the most recent delay, Microsoft put a new executive in charge of future Windows projects.  In addition, they replaced several other managers.  (source)

They've Replaced a whole bunch of managers when a project is almost done, and they added a bunch of new people to the project team.  We've been told over and over in different software engineering/project management courses that those are incredibly dumb things to do.  I'm starting to wonder if Microsoft is completely screwing itself by making these moves, but I guess we'll see !

Maybe it fails in their position, Microsoft isn't going to let a project hyped so much fail. They will throw unlimited amounts of money at it if they have to, but it will get done. The replacements were done for the best of the company.

[iago]

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After the most recent delay, Microsoft put a new executive in charge of future Windows projects.  In addition, they replaced several other managers.  (source)

They've Replaced a whole bunch of managers when a project is almost done, and they added a bunch of new people to the project team.  We've been told over and over in different software engineering/project management courses that those are incredibly dumb things to do.  I'm starting to wonder if Microsoft is completely screwing itself by making these moves, but I guess we'll see !

Maybe it fails in their position, Microsoft isn't going to let a project hyped so much fail. They will throw unlimited amounts of money at it if they have to, but it will get done. The replacements were done for the best of the company.

That's the problem, though.  Throwing money at a problem like a slipping schedule almost invariably makes the problem worse.  Like I said, many, many projects have failed because of trying to do that. 

[Warrior]

If it has to happen anyway regardless (take this situation for example) it's better to throw money at them to let them hire top notch people to continue where the others left off.

[Armin]

That'd really suck if Microsoft went bankrupt... I'd have to learn a whole new operating system...

[iago]

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If it has to happen anyway regardless (take this situation for example) it's better to throw money at them to let them hire top notch people to continue where the others left off.

Then the top notch people have to learn everything that's happening, which is a lot of re-education.  Read the book, "The Mythical Man Month", it's one of the foundation books on project management and that's where they discuss why adding peopel to a project rarely speeds it up.  It's better, in general, for them to suck it up and delay the project or drop features.

That'd really suck if Microsoft went bankrupt... I'd have to learn a whole new operating system...

I really doubt that will happen.  It's just more likely that this will delay their release longer. 

[Warrior]

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If it has to happen anyway regardless (take this situation for example) it's better to throw money at them to let them hire top notch people to continue where the others left off.

Then the top notch people have to learn everything that's happening, which is a lot of re-education.  Read the book, "The Mythical Man Month", it's one of the foundation books on project management and that's where they discuss why adding peopel to a project rarely speeds it up.  It's better, in general, for them to suck it up and delay the project or drop features.

Well Vista has been delayed a while but I doubt new project managers will be touching much of the code in this particular instance.
If the way Windows comments code hasn't changed from Windows 2000 (Not that I saw it ;)) then I don't think there will be a problem with commenting at all and most of the programmers who program low enough in the kernel usually know what they're doing.

In general I think people implementing higher things like applications are the ones who tend to get replaced a lot which results in messy code for Windows applications. Of course with WinFX including XAML application development time is cut probably in half.