[Python] Packetbuffer

[warz]

Are you sure?

lorloflromaoroflamololmaomalhaha

[Warrior]

So..someone leached your code and licensed it under GPLv2? Fucking FSF

[igimo1]

So..someone leached your code and licensed it under GPLv2? Fucking FSF

This is correct - the dummy even left a couple lines that indicated the real author in the source. Sigh.

[wires]

So..someone leached your code and licensed it under GPLv2? Fucking FSF

This is correct - the dummy even left a couple lines that indicated the real author in the source. Sigh.

LOL

[Warrior]

So..someone leached your code and licensed it under GPLv2? Fucking FSF

This is correct - the dummy even left a couple lines that indicated the real author in the source. Sigh.

Fairly certain you can complain to google to have it taken down.

[Camel]

Python is not even comparable to Brainfuck - who asks that?

topaz, continue searching for slaughter.. maybe check our irc network again - wait, you can't roflmaomfommaomrfolol

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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.-.+.-------.+++++++++++++.------------------
-----------------------------------------------------------.------------.+++++++
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.+.-
-------------.+++++++++++++++.--------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------.++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.+..-------------.

[Explicit]

Python is not even comparable to Brainfuck - who asks that?

topaz, continue searching for slaughter.. maybe check our irc network again - wait, you can't roflmaomfommaomrfolol

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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.-.+.-------.+++++++++++++.------------------
-----------------------------------------------------------.------------.+++++++
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.+.-
-------------.+++++++++++++++.--------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------.++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.+..-------------.

It takes forever to even get a "Hello, world!" application compiled and running with BF, that is, if you're actually attempting to write it yourself. 

[Sidoh]

I just don't understand why anyone uses anything other than LOLCODE.  I mean, seriously, who doesn't like to giggle at internets memes while they're programming?

[Camel]

So..someone leached your code and licensed it under GPLv2? Fucking FSF

This is correct - the dummy even left a couple lines that indicated the real author in the source. Sigh.

Fairly certain you can complain to google to have it taken down.

I'm fairly certain a cease and desist would not be uncalled for. Complaining is easier though.

Then again, can you really take a project at SVN revision 7 seriously anyways?

It takes forever to even get a "Hello, world!" application compiled and running with BF, that is, if you're actually attempting to write it yourself. 

Are you serious? Writing a BF interpreter is easy. Writing a BF generator is easy too.

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char b[MEMORY_SIZE];
char *p = &b;
int main() {
while(true) {
char c = getch();
if(c == EOF)
return 0;
switch(c) {
case '+': *p++; break;
case '-': *p--; break;
case '>': p++; break;
...
}
}
}
Here's the modified code from ABF I used to generate the above BF code. I'd have converted it to C, but that would have required reading that god awful C++ code, so I just left it in.

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/*
 * Read string from standard input and convert to Brainfuck.
 */

#include <iostream>
#include <vector>
#include <string>

using namespace std;

int main(int argc, char** argv)
{
vector<string> stringvec;

for (string tmp; getline(cin, tmp);) {
stringvec.push_back(tmp);
}

int i = 0;
for (vector<string>::const_iterator oit = stringvec.begin();
oit != stringvec.end();
++oit) {
for (string::const_iterator iit = oit->begin();
iit != oit->end();
++iit) {
for (; i < *iit; ++i)
cout << "+";
for (; i > *iit; --i)
cout << "-";
cout << ".";
}
cout << endl;
}
}

[iago]

I don't see a license on the source files, so there's no way you could force them to give credit. Next time, if you want credit, give it a BSD-style license.

Personally, I release code under an a public domain license, and I tell people who use it that they don't have to give me credit, but it's nice if they do.

[Camel]

I use GPL v2 because it was the first option in the drop-down when I created the Google Code project.

Honestly, I've never even read it. I do know, however, that it's infectious. That is to say, if you use any GPLv2 code, the modules that include the GPLed code have to be released with the same license.

iago, what's the difference between the license you use and no license at all?

[iago]

There is no difference, actually. Mine's just spelling out, clearly, that there is no license.

[Camel]

Then why, I must ask, don't you at least insist that you receive credit for your work? I'm completely in support of free OSS (open-source software), but when I say free I mean gratis, not libre. I believe that the majority of the people who use libre OSS and do not turn around and release their own software have an overall negative impact on the software community. There isn't any way to gauge this impact, so it's entirely a matter of opinion, but I can think of several examples that support my case.

The whole philosophy behind OSS is essentially communism -- that's bad for governments, but good for software; by contributing, you are making the software world a better place. By using free OSS, but not returning the favor, one is simply exploiting the system. It's embezzlement, plain and simple.


Discuss.

[iago]

Not communism, socialism. Communism was a special form of socialism that sucked it up.

Personally, the code I write is for my own use. I want something, so I write it. I figure that if other people want to benefit from what I write, let 'em. I don't care if they're individuals or corporations or whatever.

There are cases, like the Lockdown code, where I use a stricter license because I know that others will want to use it, and it was a significant amount of work. On Lockdown I used a BSD-style license.

[Camel]

I don't see how the distinction between communism and socialism applies to software. Explain?

I remember being asked to help someone debug a problem with their battle.net bot once. They send me a ZIP file with the source code inside of it. When I opened it, I was shocked to find that roughly half of the code inside was identical to the code in my bot - and it wasn't just the large amount of code I'd released to the public domain primarily on the vL forums and in other various places. Modules were not even renamed; often, I add comments with links and credits in my code, and those were all removed. There was no credit given to anyone; in fact, the owner claimed that the bot was a completely original work, from the ground up.

After I called him on it, he admitted that he had started from a barebones bot project, and modified it so that his name replaced the author - let's call him "(2xX)j0ke" to protect his identity. Way back in the day, j0ke and I were working on a project together, but it didn't last long. He kept a lot of the work I'd done, which was fine with me. The problem was that he turned around and handed it off without asking for my permission, or even acknowledging that I'd contributed.

It's infuriating to know that I spent years testing, debugging, and even learning how to do all of the things I'd done for that project, and that someone just passed it off without even a thought of where it came from. The worst part of all was that I'd contributed to what later became the first starcraft win bot.