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Can't Make a Tilde
« on: June 22, 2006, 09:35:12 pm »
Pressing shift+` doesn't give me a tilde.  Grr.  I set my keyboard layout to match my keyboard (Microsoft Internet Keyboard), but still nothing.  Any ides?

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2006, 04:01:19 am »
Kill yourself.
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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2006, 08:21:06 am »
Copy and paste. ~

EDIT -
Linux might be racist against your keyboard manufacturer.
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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2006, 01:16:53 pm »
Set your keyboard to a normal 104-key (or whatever)?

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2006, 09:14:51 pm »
Tried several, 101-107, Microsoft Internet (which it is) and "Generic", but I can't make a tilde.

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2006, 12:15:46 am »
Try the other shift key?
I'd personally do as Joe suggests

You might be right about that, Joe.


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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2006, 01:39:29 am »
Kill yourself.

Good advice!  It really is too bad rabbit fails at following instructions.  er... Read this!  (My fail safe! :D)
And like a fool I believed myself, and thought I was somebody else...

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2006, 03:58:29 am »
Damn it. I read it.
I'd personally do as Joe suggests

You might be right about that, Joe.


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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2006, 07:21:48 am »
I still can't make a damn tilde!

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2006, 07:55:28 am »
Try the other shift key?

It's really no help if you don't tell us if you tried it or not.
I'd personally do as Joe suggests

You might be right about that, Joe.


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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2006, 03:49:52 pm »
If I didn't try, why would I say it doesn't work?

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2006, 05:14:37 pm »
If I didn't try, why would I say it doesn't work?
Because several things were suggested, and you didn't quote anybody.  You also didn't say what you've tried in the past, which could help. 

It would be nice to know what steps you've taken and what has failed to work. 

Eg: have you tried a different keyboard?  A different Linux (Knoppix, or something else off a cd)?  Changing the keyboard mapping?  Using the other shift?  Copying/pasting the ~?

Try
  dmesg | grep -i "key"
See if it has any messages about your keyboard.  Also:
  cat /var/log/messages | grep -i "key"

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2006, 08:13:11 pm »
Different keyboards don't work.
Neither shift makes it.
dmesg and cat didn't give anything.
It worked on Slack a few months ago, and on my first install of Fedora.
Copy & paste works fine, but I don't want to have to do that every time I need to make a tilde.

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2006, 01:33:50 pm »
Reinstall Slackware. Again.
I'd personally do as Joe suggests

You might be right about that, Joe.


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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2006, 01:53:02 pm »
Does it only happen in X?  Or does it also happen in the TTY console?

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2006, 02:27:57 pm »
O hell...not sure.  I haven't gotten a TTY in a while (Fedora boots X and then runs its stuff)

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2006, 02:31:09 pm »
Ctrl+Alt+F1
I'd personally do as Joe suggests

You might be right about that, Joe.


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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2006, 02:34:36 pm »
Tilde works in TTY -.-

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2006, 03:49:22 pm »
Then we know it's a problem with X. That's a plus. 

Can you run xorg.config or xfree.config or some program resembling one of those, set everything up, restart X, and see if that helps?

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2006, 11:53:11 am »
hwd -x > xorgconfig

unless of course you like answerring detail questions about your hardware that the machine could detect without asking you..

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2006, 02:16:19 pm »
hwd doesn't come default with X.  It's a specifically arch-Linux tool. 

And anyways, "what resolution do you want?" and "what type of video card do you have?" aren't exactly difficult questions for somebody who knows anything .

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2006, 02:21:06 pm »
I didn't know hwd was Arch specific, damn.

resolution and video card no, horizontal and verticaly sync rates, yes.

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2006, 03:31:59 pm »
I've never gotten the sync rates wrong, and I know I've picked different ones.  I don't think it makes a difference.

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2006, 03:50:50 pm »
setting them too low is never a problem, you just might not get the optimal refresh rate.

setting them too high will fry your monitor. smoke and everything

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2006, 08:16:37 pm »
60Hz refresh, some kind of video card which I can look up in system properties somewhere, and my resolution is 1200xsomething.  I can find it all (it's downstairs).  I'll try when I go into my room, which isn't often anymore due to my room being about 110F at any given point in time.

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2006, 11:25:24 pm »
Yea...60hz kills my eyes.  If you are lucky it'll list it on the back of your monitor, if you aren't you have to find a product spec sheet.

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2006, 03:27:00 am »
I feel sorry for your room, rabbit. Mine's in the basement, thank God.

As for your resolution, I think you meant 1280 x Something. Possible options are 1280x720, 1280x768, and 1280x1024.
I'd personally do as Joe suggests

You might be right about that, Joe.


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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2006, 04:04:41 am »
Yea...60hz kills my eyes.  If you are lucky it'll list it on the back of your monitor, if you aren't you have to find a product spec sheet.
60hz is fine, if it's an LCD. 

My computer's drivers were messed up once, and I was getting something like 45hz.  Talk about a headache!

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2006, 07:48:28 am »
It's CRT, and the only option in monitor preferences is 60Hz.  It's fine for me :\
Anyway, I still haven't gone in there...

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #29 on: July 15, 2006, 02:52:54 pm »
rabbit you clearly haven't tried my solution for everything.  Get crackin at it, and let me know how it works out!
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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #30 on: July 15, 2006, 04:57:15 pm »
If I try your solution and it works, you'll never know.

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #31 on: July 15, 2006, 06:10:11 pm »
I am prepared to accept that risk. 

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #32 on: July 15, 2006, 06:28:30 pm »
If I try your solution and it works, you'll never know.

I'll know because you'll have stopped complaining about the problem.  See?  Problem solved!
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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #33 on: July 19, 2006, 12:26:31 pm »
xfree.config xorg.config xfree.conf xorg.conf etc... none are programs.  Hrm.

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #34 on: July 19, 2006, 01:13:00 pm »
xfree.config xorg.config xfree.conf xorg.conf etc... none are programs.  Hrm.
They are files. Hrm. Try editing them.
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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #35 on: July 19, 2006, 01:24:16 pm »
the program is "xorgconfig"

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #36 on: July 19, 2006, 02:16:19 pm »
[root@rasputin spencer]# xorgconfig
bash: xorgconfig: command not found

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #37 on: July 19, 2006, 03:06:36 pm »
He's on redhat/fedora iirc. I dunno what he uses. :/

Do me a favor if you haven't already.

Code: [Select]
ls /etc/X11/*conf* > http://www.x86labs.org:81/forum/index.php/topic,6389.html
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[17:32:45] * xar sets mode: -oooooooooo algorithm ban chris cipher newby stdio TehUser tnarongi|away vursed warz
[17:32:54] * xar sets mode: +o newby
[17:32:58] <xar> new rule
[17:33:02] <xar> me and newby rule all

I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #38 on: July 19, 2006, 05:07:59 pm »
[root@rasputin spencer]# ls /etc/X11/*conf* /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup

/etc/X11/serverconfig:

/etc/X11/sysconfig:

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #39 on: July 20, 2006, 12:46:55 am »
The script would probably be in /usr/X11R6/bin.  But I don't know how to configure X on your distro, there's gotta be a configuration script, though.

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2006, 01:08:15 am »
I'm not sure if rabbit used Google, so...

The answer was here:

/questions/showthread.php?t=287973
(I am newbie, can't post URLs. You know the beginning.)

There is not xorgconfig at all. System-config-keyboard should make the changes to xorg.conf, but it is impossible to change the type of keyboard from AT to USB.

System-config-* perhaps?
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[17:32:45] * xar sets mode: -oooooooooo algorithm ban chris cipher newby stdio TehUser tnarongi|away vursed warz
[17:32:54] * xar sets mode: +o newby
[17:32:58] <xar> new rule
[17:33:02] <xar> me and newby rule all

I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #41 on: July 20, 2006, 11:19:59 am »
[root@rasputin spencer]# System-config-keyboard
bash: System-config-keyboard: command not found

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #42 on: July 20, 2006, 11:55:59 am »
Did you RTFM? Or use Google on that? Come on, we aren't the be all, end all answer for this you know... :P
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[17:32:45] * xar sets mode: -oooooooooo algorithm ban chris cipher newby stdio TehUser tnarongi|away vursed warz
[17:32:54] * xar sets mode: +o newby
[17:32:58] <xar> new rule
[17:33:02] <xar> me and newby rule all

I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #43 on: July 20, 2006, 12:03:22 pm »
WTF!  I've been lied to....

Anyway, nobody on Google seems to be having the sme problem.

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #44 on: July 20, 2006, 12:04:59 pm »
Don't Google the problem. Google "System-config-keyboard" and your distro (Fedora Core 5 FC5?) and see what comes up.
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[17:32:45] * xar sets mode: -oooooooooo algorithm ban chris cipher newby stdio TehUser tnarongi|away vursed warz
[17:32:54] * xar sets mode: +o newby
[17:32:58] <xar> new rule
[17:33:02] <xar> me and newby rule all

I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #45 on: July 20, 2006, 12:13:43 pm »
I've done that too.  I can't install it (says already installed).  Pissha.

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #46 on: July 20, 2006, 12:14:12 pm »
So look around for what files are linked to that. What files it installed, where you can use it, etc...
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[17:32:45] * xar sets mode: -oooooooooo algorithm ban chris cipher newby stdio TehUser tnarongi|away vursed warz
[17:32:54] * xar sets mode: +o newby
[17:32:58] <xar> new rule
[17:33:02] <xar> me and newby rule all

I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

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Re: Can't Make a Tilde
« Reply #47 on: July 20, 2006, 01:29:27 pm »
Says:
Already installed in /tmp/system-config-keyboard-1.2.7-1.1.noarch.rpm

Incidentally, that's what I'm attempting the install using.