Jesus in Canada or just some crazy dude that heals people???

[CrAz3D]

http://www.greatmystery.org/newsletters/van_jfthoi_adam.html

Pretty crazy, watchin the thing on ABC Primetime right now about him healing some Afghanistan Vet that had his head split open with an axe & was supposed to be in a coma forever I believe.

[Joe]

This ought to show you unfaithful kiddies.

[leet_muffin]

...Joe, please. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigori_Rasputin His story = much more... interesting, mystical, bizarre, amazing.. and just overall, Russian. Please note: He, in a way, overthrew the Russian Orthodoxy (among the most strict froms of Christianity), but lemme' guess; he was a soldier of Satan?

[Sidoh]

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This ought to show you unfaithful kiddies.

Let me clarify: you think this man is proof that Christianity is true?  You do realize that almost every other religion could benefit from claiming that one man can heal physical ailments of another, right?  I skimmed through the article (including a Ctrl + F) and was unable to find the word "Christian" in there anywhere.

I find it amusing that you are claiming false idols are advocates for Christianity.

[rabbit]

So maybe Jews were right and Jesus was a fraud!

[iago]

I find it amusing that you are claiming false idols are advocates for Christianity.

Haha, that's exactly what I was going to say.  This guy is more likely proof AGAINST Christianity. 

[CrAz3D]

I find it amusing that you are claiming false idols are advocates for Christianity.

Haha, that's exactly what I was going to say.  This guy is more likely proof AGAINST Christianity. 

mmmmmm, I wouldnt say that, I'd just say that he (if its true) is proof of people having "powers"

[iago]

I find it amusing that you are claiming false idols are advocates for Christianity.

Haha, that's exactly what I was going to say.  This guy is more likely proof AGAINST Christianity. 

mmmmmm, I wouldnt say that, I'd just say that he (if its true) is proof of people having "powers"

Christianity says that people DON'T have powers, God does.  Jesus had powers because he was the son of God.  If some other fellow has them, then he's either:
a) Son of God
b) Son of Satan (anti-christ, anybody?)
c) Proof against christianity
d) A fraud

I tend towards (d). 

[CrAz3D]

uhm, in that case, I guess it is proof of God.  (if you want to limit it to those choices)

I dont think Jesus said he was Christian, just that he was the Son of God...Jesus was a Jew

[MyndFyre]

Christianity says that people DON'T have powers, God does.  Jesus had powers because he was the son of God.  If some other fellow has them, then he's either:

Uhh, no.  Reference: 1 Corinthians 12.

[iago]

uhm, in that case, I guess it is proof of God.  (if you want to limit it to those choices)

I dont think Jesus said he was Christian, just that he was the Son of God...Jesus was a Jew

It's not necessary for Jesus to be Christian to be the son of God.  But aren't all Christian religions based on Jesus?

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Christianity says that people DON'T have powers, God does.  Jesus had powers because he was the son of God.  If some other fellow has them, then he's either:

Uhh, no.  Reference: 1 Corinthians 12.

Hmm, that's interesting.  However, it seems to me that when that says "healing powers", could it not be referring to doctors?  I would find it strange if that's actually saying that God arbitrarily grants people supernatural powers (miraculous powers are fine, since they aren't necessarily supernatural).

[CrAz3D]

uhm, in that case, I guess it is proof of God.  (if you want to limit it to those choices)

I dont think Jesus said he was Christian, just that he was the Son of God...Jesus was a Jew

It's not necessary for Jesus to be Christian to be the son of God.  But aren't all Christian religions based on Jesus?

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Christianity says that people DON'T have powers, God does.  Jesus had powers because he was the son of God.  If some other fellow has them, then he's either:

Uhh, no.  Reference: 1 Corinthians 12.

Hmm, that's interesting.  However, it seems to me that when that says "healing powers", could it not be referring to doctors?  I would find it strange if that's actually saying that God arbitrarily grants people supernatural powers (miraculous powers are fine, since they aren't necessarily supernatural).

why cant healing be miraculous?

[iago]

Healing can be miraculous. 

But I don't think it can be supernatural, keeping with religion as I understand it. 

[CrAz3D]

Healing can be miraculous. 

But I don't think it can be supernatural, keeping with religion as I understand it. 

If healing can be miraculous & God grants miraculous powers then maybe this guy is like a real prophet

[Rule]

It's probably best to wait on more substantial proof of his powers, rather than assuming he has these powers and debating about their possible impact on various religions.  This is of course, not new at all.  How many people have claimed to have super-natural powers, with success stories to back up their claims?