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Started by iago, December 06, 2006, 08:42:47 PM

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Sidoh

Huh?  I definitely think Symantec has a lot of credit.  My university (who doesn't have idiots for techs, mind you.  assholes maybe, but not idiots) issues free licenses to students and require all systems using their network to have it or some other antivirus program installed.  I realize that a somewhat considerable portion of which antivirus program they decide to promote is the price that they can get the licenses for, but they have to believe that it's viable if they're going to trust that it'll help keep their network safe.

Warrior

I like a company that is about security. I hate a company which makes it's revenues from flaws in a system. It's really low considering that they use those same flaws to install their solutions. There is no telling how the undocumented internal APIs they use will change and what havok it could cause on a system.
One must ask oneself: "do I will trolling to become a universal law?" And then when one realizes "yes, I do will it to be such," one feels completely justified.
-- from Groundwork for the Metaphysics of Trolling

Sidoh

Quote from: Warriorx86] link=topic=8092.msg101871#msg101871 date=1165525454]
I like a company that is about security. I hate a company which makes it's revenues from flaws in a system. It's really low considering that they use those same flaws to install their solutions. There is no telling how the undocumented internal APIs they use will change and what havok it could cause on a system.

Wait, so you hate Microsoft too? O_O

Warrior

touche sidoh, touche.
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AntiVirus

Good job sex muffin.
The once grove of splendor,
Aforetime crowned by lilac and lily,
Lay now forevermore slender;
And all winds that liven
Silhouette a lone existence;
A leafless oak grasping at eternity.


"They say that I must learn to kill before I can feel safe, but I rather kill myself then turn into their slave."
- The Rasmus

iago

I should point out that I will NOT be working for Norton, which is a subsidiary.

Sidoh

My university uses Symantec antivirus, not Norton antivirus.

iago

I've never even heard of "Symantec Antivirus", hmm! 

In any case, I don't think that's developed in Calgary, up here is a vulnerability analysis/reporting shop (securityfocus.com is up here, their vulnerability analysis, threat response, etc)

AntiVirus

There can only be one AntiVirus, and that's me. Damn posers.
The once grove of splendor,
Aforetime crowned by lilac and lily,
Lay now forevermore slender;
And all winds that liven
Silhouette a lone existence;
A leafless oak grasping at eternity.


"They say that I must learn to kill before I can feel safe, but I rather kill myself then turn into their slave."
- The Rasmus

Sidoh

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Quote from: iago on December 08, 2006, 08:28:41 AM
I've never even heard of "Symantec Antivirus", hmm! 

In any case, I don't think that's developed in Calgary, up here is a vulnerability analysis/reporting shop (securityfocus.com is up here, their vulnerability analysis, threat response, etc)

:-o


Newby

Symantec's AV is garbage. It's the only anti-virus I've used that couldn't recognize a virus I told it to specifically scan. It recognized it a few weeks later finally... doing daily database updates too. Sad. :(

Sidoh: my father had a corporate license for Symantec. He wasn't an idiot either. He just made bad choices. :P
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I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

Chavo

Horseshit.  I've used Symantec Antivirus for several years at my university.  We recently switched to Trend Antivirus (for whatever reasons) and Symantec was 10x better.  Trend won't pick up everything that Symantec does and it almost never successfully cleans a file.  Not once when I used Symantec was it unable to either delete, clean, or delete on the next reboot a file.  I've never had it not detect a virus, are you sure it was a virus and not a bad piece of malware/spyware?  The other big name, McAfee Antivirus is even worse than Trend.  Once you install it, its a huge resource hog and good luck trying to uninstall it.

My dad uses Symantec at Boeing and anytime they have a problem that Symantec AV doesn't recognize, they send them a report (I don't know what all it entails).  Symantec is obligated by contract to respond with a fix within 24 hours.  Neither Trend or McAfee will make such a contract with Boeing...seems pretty obvious why.

Almost all of the 'free' alternatives online are much less sophisticated and generate lots of false positives.

Sidoh

Quote from: Newby on December 08, 2006, 06:40:19 PM
Symantec's AV is garbage. It's the only anti-virus I've used that couldn't recognize a virus I told it to specifically scan. It recognized it a few weeks later finally... doing daily database updates too. Sad. :(

It's picked up viruses in a bunch of the downloads I have from years ago.  I think you just had bad luck with it.  I'm pretty sure that you know less on this subject than the network administrators working here or at most other universities.

Quote from: Newby on December 08, 2006, 06:40:19 PM
Sidoh: my father had a corporate license for Symantec. He wasn't an idiot either. He just made bad choices. :P

Newby: congratulations.

Quote from: unTactical on December 09, 2006, 11:22:02 AM
Horseshit.  I've used Symantec Antivirus for several years at my university.  We recently switched to Trend Antivirus (for whatever reasons) and Symantec was 10x better.  Trend won't pick up everything that Symantec does and it almost never successfully cleans a file.  Not once when I used Symantec was it unable to either delete, clean, or delete on the next reboot a file.  I've never had it not detect a virus, are you sure it was a virus and not a bad piece of malware/spyware?  The other big name, McAfee Antivirus is even worse than Trend.  Once you install it, its a huge resource hog and good luck trying to uninstall it.

My dad uses Symantec at Boeing and anytime they have a problem that Symantec AV doesn't recognize, they send them a report (I don't know what all it entails).  Symantec is obligated by contract to respond with a fix within 24 hours.  Neither Trend or McAfee will make such a contract with Boeing...seems pretty obvious why.

Almost all of the 'free' alternatives online are much less sophisticated and generate lots of false positives.

:-*

iago

Quote from: unTactical on December 09, 2006, 11:22:02 AM
Almost all of the 'free' alternatives online are much less sophisticated and generate lots of false positives.
Free anti-virus is tricky, because it takes a ton of maintenance.  But there are decent free ones. 

rabbit

My university also "requires" Symantec AV (but they don't check, so eh).  I do notice that it's pretty clean.  Norton AV used to be such a hog, and usually ran my CPU 30% min.