Are We Eating vL?

[rabbit]

Aside from iago and MyndFyre, we seem to be eating a bunch of vL goers.  Skywing posts here more than at vL, and Rule has been posting a lot too.  Now I'm seeing a bunch of posts by LordNevar, and I wouldn't be surprised if there are other people who are mostly vL at least looking at our boards...

[Newby]

Shrug. I dabble between both; normally there is more general activity here.

[CrAz3D]

I Don't Know.  It Sure Does Seem That Many People From vL Have Come Here.

[MyndFyre]

I Don't Know.  It Sure Does Seem That Many People From vL Have Come Here.

It Sure Seems That Your Post Quality Has Decreased Concurrently With Your Capitalization Of Every Word.

[CrAz3D]

x86/64] link=topic=9491.msg120344#msg120344 date=1180397690]

I Don't Know.  It Sure Does Seem That Many People From vL Have Come Here.

It Sure Seems That Your Post Quality Has Decreased Concurrently With Your Capitalization Of Every Word.

It was because the title was all capitalized, but then I realize the title part after I posted.

[trust]

I stopped going to vL awhile ago. I only post here and a lacrosse forum now.

[Joe]

vL forums have been increasingly unmoderated and.. dare I say.. StealthBot-ish lately.

[abc]

I check both, but mainly post here.

[Warrior]

LordNevar? I see LordVader

[iago]

vL is sort of the forum that we spawned off of.

Lately I've been reading both with about the same frequency, but there's a lot less riff-raff here.

The thing is, one of the first things we decided (after e1 :) ) is that having static leaders is not a good idea. People might start disliking them, or they might become inactive. Also, I don't really like the concept of ownership. A clan, to me, is a group of friends, and nobody owns it. So we decided on democratic elections for leaders.

If you look at our initial leaders, you'll see something like me, Krazed, and Tuberload. Both of them go through long periods of inactivity. Tuberload because he has a lot going on in real life, and Krazed because he has a short attention span. And it's possible that, at some point, I'll be unable to fulfill my duties as leader for whatever reason.

Now, as I said earlier, vL has more riff-raff. This is largely because the leaders have other things to do besides look after a clan. They work, they have (presumably) social lives, they don't have the time that they used to to run the forum. That's fine, it happens. But the result is that people (for example, Topaz) can operating with impunity.

There is a downside, however. Grok, Adron, and Skywing are historical figures on Battle.net, and their clan was what it is because they're the leaders (for the most part). vL simply wouldn't work under our style. So you're sort of left with a forum that slowly decays as no leader can take responsibility.

I feel bad for "taking" members to x86, though. This clan was never supposed to compete with anybody (except, perhaps, e1 ;) ). When I created d2backstab.com, it was for the sole reason of protesting policies of scbackstab.com. However, when I joined/created[1] x86, it was because I didn't know of any group with the ideals I wanted. vL was elitest, and e1 was run by a power hungry dictator. Well, not quite that bad, but I didn't like how e1 was being run. I didn't feel the members were given enough say, which is why I went for the democratic style.

And by the way, I'm very proud of what x86 has become. Almost everybody here is great, and although we have some occasional disagreements, it's a strong group and I enjoy coming here immensly.


[1] Technically, Newby and darkness created it, but we didn't really become a real clan till I came on board. Go me! :)

[trust]

yay another thread full of pop shots at me.  ::)

[iago]

yay another thread full of pop shots at me.  ::)

Sorry, it's so hard to resist! :P

[Warrior]

What about that infamous AIM message!

Newby: "Hey war you should join x86!"

You know..after I took that fucking long as shit vb6 test to get into e1.
Goddamn that shit was long.

[rabbit]

x86] link=topic=9491.msg120362#msg120362 date=1180404373]
LordNevar? I see LordVader

Shhhhh.......I made a mistake.

Either way, it's just lately that more people from vL are appearing.  As I said, Skywing posts here more than at vL.  WTF?

That testing thing was easy though.  It was tedious, but not too hard :\

[Warrior]

Well I mean, we do tend to have more technical discussiosn nowadays than vL.

Examples might be, Myndys UAC PDF
iagos blog postings
my eliteness