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Started by Killer360, August 08, 2007, 02:38:59 PM

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rabbit

Quote from: leet_muffin on August 09, 2007, 02:13:25 PM
America doesn't have any places of such a situation. Or even close to such a situation.

I do agree, though, why would you invite poor people (of any race) who are actively involved in a destructive form of entertainment and crime to a tourist attraction?
Camden, New Jersey.

iago

Quote from: Quik on August 09, 2007, 01:40:16 PM
Nothing you said informed me any differently then I already knew. The racism is still unacceptable in my book. I understand there's issues, especially with the government, but that doesn't allow everyone in this thread to automatically get the right to be racist.
It's a self-reinforcing cycle that a lot of people don't realize is happening, and much less try to break out of. I can see the problem for what it is, but I like to think of myself as open minded. I'll give anybody, even natives, a far chance. But the government, by trying to help them, is hurting them.

Quote from: leet_muffin on August 09, 2007, 02:13:25 PM
America doesn't have any places of such a situation. Or even close to such a situation.

I do agree, though, why would you invite poor people (of any race) who are actively involved in a destructive form of entertainment and crime to a tourist attraction?
The impression I get is that there's widespread racism against Mexicans in the south and Black people in certain places. But I could be wrong. I may also be making the problem seem worse than it is, since I've had to live among it for 24 years.

leet_muffin

Quote from: rabbit on August 09, 2007, 02:26:54 PM
Quote from: leet_muffin on August 09, 2007, 02:13:25 PM
America doesn't have any places of such a situation. Or even close to such a situation.

I do agree, though, why would you invite poor people (of any race) who are actively involved in a destructive form of entertainment and crime to a tourist attraction?
Camden, New Jersey.

I don't see 5% of the population doing 90% of the crime. Do you?
The douchebag method:
Quote from: Trust on April 19, 2008, 02:58:00 AM
fuck allfo you i dont give a fuck ill fight everyone of you fuck that sbhit fuck you

iago

Quote from: leet_muffin on August 09, 2007, 02:55:20 PM
I don't see 5% of the population doing 90% of the crime. Do you?

Keep in mind that I made up that statistic. But it's reasonably close to true :P

(plus, I didn't say 90% of the crime, I said 90% in jail.)

rabbit

Yeah, pay attention.  That means that 90% of the BAD criminals are indians.  I bet 90% of the good criminals aren't, though.

Killer360

Quote from: iago on August 09, 2007, 03:36:32 PM
Quote from: leet_muffin on August 09, 2007, 02:55:20 PM
I don't see 5% of the population doing 90% of the crime. Do you?

Keep in mind that I made up that statistic. But it's reasonably close to true :P

(plus, I didn't say 90% of the crime, I said 90% in jail.)
Believe me, it's close enough. Just take a look at the wanted page on the Winnipeg Police website.... http://winnipeg.ca/police/CrimeStoppers/Wanted/wanted.stm

Only 3 aren't indian... the other 5 are. And that page is usually full of 'em...


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Beowulf

Killer you're a stereotypical, unloving, mess :S Sorry to say Lol. Sounds hilarious to me. I was born/raised in Montana where we lived and schooled with multiple Indian's. All of which pretty damn cool. I guess Indians, just as skaters and stoners alike, are different per area. I mean countries are a big diff i'm sure too ;p

Ender

These kinds of problems annoy me. For instance, you're walking in a big city late at night and you see a black guy walking towards you. Should you cross the street?

This is not, however, a complicated situation, even though many people think it is. It's very simple. Of course you should cross the street. When it's a matter of safety versus empathy, you choose safety.

Now let's say you're in a high school classroom and there's a black kid who's trying to initiate a conversation with you and be friendly. You are confronted with the situation of engaging in conversation or disengaging. Should the color of his skin make any difference in your decision? Of course not. Why? Because the safety risk is so slight that empathy outweighs safety.

You just always look to which outweighs which, safety or empathy. It's true that a larger percentage of blacks than whites commit crimes in big cities. Get over it. It doesn't change the fact that the risk of the black kid in your classroom is negligibly small. And the risk of any white kid being a criminal is also there, existent; perhaps a little smaller, but still there. I admit this example isn't very compelling, but it works, and I'm too busy to think of a better example.

So when safety is not an issue, you consider empathy. Now, in this case, Killer360 is making a generalization about Indians that can hurt their feelings. Why? Is he somehow unsafe, and does this statement somehow improve his safety, like crossing the street? No, of course it doesn't, he's on the fucking interweb. And so we consider empathy, and he is clearly getting negative points for empathy, and thus he has made the wrong decision in making a generalization that can offend many others.

iago

Quote from: Ender on September 30, 2007, 07:26:06 AM
These kinds of problems annoy me. For instance, you're walking in a big city late at night and you see a black guy walking towards you. Should you cross the street?
That happened to me twice in the last week, and in both cases it was a group of 4 or more black people. I didn't cross the street, however, because there is very little racism between black and white people here. If it was a group of natives, I would probably have acted differently.

Beowulf

*Claps* Beautifully said Ender :)

Ender

Beowulf, I suggest you introduce yourself in the introductions forum, so people can get to know a little about you. :)

Killer360

I've only started making generalizations recently due to recent, rather major, problems. Maybe they are not as bad in other areas of the world. Most of them are horrible here though.

GameSnake

Quote from: iago on September 30, 2007, 10:39:32 AM
Quote from: Ender on September 30, 2007, 07:26:06 AM
These kinds of problems annoy me. For instance, you're walking in a big city late at night and you see a black guy walking towards you. Should you cross the street?
That happened to me twice in the last week, and in both cases it was a group of 4 or more black people. I didn't cross the street, however, because there is very little racism between black and white people here. If it was a group of natives, I would probably have acted differently.
That may be in Canada but here in America black people, especially in bigger cities, are feared and for good reasons.

Killer360

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Quote from: GameSnake on October 02, 2007, 03:58:31 PM
Quote from: iago on September 30, 2007, 10:39:32 AM
Quote from: Ender on September 30, 2007, 07:26:06 AM
These kinds of problems annoy me. For instance, you're walking in a big city late at night and you see a black guy walking towards you. Should you cross the street?
That happened to me twice in the last week, and in both cases it was a group of 4 or more black people. I didn't cross the street, however, because there is very little racism between black and white people here. If it was a group of natives, I would probably have acted differently.
That may be in Canada but here in America black people, especially in bigger cities, are feared and for good reasons.
I understand. Thankfully, African Americans are not a big problem here.

Today when I was in the city I saw an indian teen walking down one of my friends backlanes, and I immediately knew he was out of place. I saw him poking his head into yards and shit so I yelled at him and he took off. Things just never stop with the indians here, and problems are going to keep getting worse if the government doesn't do something soon.