HUGE ICE raid nets 600

[CrAz3D]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080826/ap_on_bi_ge/immigration_raid

600 people detained in an ICE raid, intense.  I saw another article today that mentioned of the 160 hispanic students at a local school, half of them were absent today.

"We have kids without dads and pregnant mothers who got their husbands taken away," said Velez's son, Robert, youth pastor at the church. "It was like a horror story. They got handled like they were criminals.

I chuckled at this a little.
Illegal immigration is illegal, therefore criminal.

[MyndFyre]

Illegal immigration is illegal, therefore criminal.

So it's criminal to go 1mph over the speed limit?

* MyndFyre chuckles

Can't wait to see how you do in law school!

[iago]

It's all about dehumanizing the people, so they're no longer seen as equals. Look at how well that kind of thing worked for Hitler!

[CrAz3D]

Illegal immigration is illegal, therefore criminal.

So it's criminal to go 1mph over the speed limit?

* MyndFyre chuckles

Can't wait to see how you do in law school!

Depends if your speeding ticket is civil or not.  I think our airplane issued ones (or however the hell they work) are mailed to you and are civil proceedings.

It's all about dehumanizing the people, so they're no longer seen as equals. Look at how well that kind of thing worked for Hitler!

Or maybe maintaining national sovereignty?

[iago]

Or maybe maintaining national sovereignty?

From your quote:

"We have kids without dads and pregnant mothers who got their husbands taken away,"

You don't have to take children away from their parents to maintain sovereignty. From the little bit you've said, it sounds more like rounding people up.

What happened to, "Give me your tired, your poor / Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free"?

[MyndFyre]

What happened to, "Give me your tired, your poor / Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free"?

Now it reads "No vacancies."

[Camel]

What happened to, "Give me your tired, your poor / Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free"?

Now it reads "No vacancies."

lol

[iago]

What happened to, "Give me your tired, your poor / Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free"?

Now it reads "No vacancies."

Haha, nice.

[CrAz3D]

Or maybe maintaining national sovereignty?

From your quote:

"We have kids without dads and pregnant mothers who got their husbands taken away,"

You don't have to take children away from their parents to maintain sovereignty. From the little bit you've said, it sounds more like rounding people up.

What happened to, "Give me your tired, your poor / Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free"?

That sign srsly needs to be changed.

Also, I argue that they aren't yearning to breathe free, but yearning to breathe FOR free.

[iago]

Aren't they generally working when they come to the US?

[deadly7]

Aren't they generally working when they come to the US?

Yes, and usually doing jobs nobody else wanted to do in the first place.

[CrAz3D]

The illegals do, yeah, it's the black people that're already here that are the HUGE financial drain.  We did a report in a class that showed illegals have little impact on the economy as a whole.  I think they only hurt us like a couple million dollars per year (over all, that doesn't mean it doesnt DESTROY some places, like the LA County Hospital).

Aren't they generally working when they come to the US?

Yes, and usually doing jobs nobody else wanted to do in the first place.

Yup, its jobs no one WANTED ... I think we should fill those jobs with prison laborers.

[Armin]

Aren't they generally working when they come to the US?

It's not like we don't allow legal immigration. My problem with illegal immigration is that they're cutting in line in front of all the people patiently waiting.

[iago]

Aren't they generally working when they come to the US?

It's not like we don't allow legal immigration. My problem with illegal immigration is that they're cutting in line in front of all the people patiently waiting.

Well, I was responding to CrAz3'd thing about breathing "FOR free".

[Armin]

Yeah, I don't really know why I quoted you.