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Title: best shadowbolt crit
Post by: Towelie on July 07, 2006, 12:56:32 AM
(http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/7540/sbcrit9ow.png)
hehehehe :)
The spell at my rank does 500-550 or so (or it says on the button), but my spec owns that damage. Its a 2.5 second cast btw.
Title: Re: best shadowbolt crit
Post by: Sidoh on July 07, 2006, 01:00:00 AM
Ruin does own...
Title: Re: best shadowbolt crit
Post by: Blaze on July 07, 2006, 01:04:35 AM
So.. your crit is about 500 more damage then mine (350 without vul), same cast time, you have a pet, more health and a crowd control ability that is hard to break and doesn't heal the person.  I see.
Title: Re: best shadowbolt crit
Post by: Sidoh on July 07, 2006, 01:40:45 AM
Quote from: Blaze on July 07, 2006, 01:04:35 AM
So.. your crit is about 500 more damage then mine (350 without vul), same cast time, you have a pet, more health and a crowd control ability that is hard to break and doesn't heal the person.  I see.

Nerf locks. :(
Title: Re: best shadowbolt crit
Post by: Joe on July 07, 2006, 07:49:31 PM
Don't nerf warlocks. It's about time they can kill anything. :)

My highest crit is a bit short of 400, I think. However, I'm affliction specced so if I see someone level 40 or lower I can lay down Curse of Agony, Corruption and Siphon Life and watch them run and die (I'm only level 46, too!).
Title: Re: best shadowbolt crit
Post by: MyndFyre on July 07, 2006, 08:02:19 PM
Quote from: Joex86] link=topic=6532.msg79224#msg79224 date=1152316171]
Don't nerf warlocks. It's about time they can kill anything. :)

My highest crit is a bit short of 400, I think. However, I'm affliction specced so if I see someone level 40 or lower I can lay down Curse of Agony, Corruption and Siphon Life and watch them run and die (I'm only level 46, too!).
Joe, just because you suck doesn't mean Locks are underpowered.  I closed beta'd a lock and loved it.
Title: Re: best shadowbolt crit
Post by: Joe on July 07, 2006, 09:42:27 PM
I didn't get any better, but my lock did. :). I'm guessing it's something Blizzard did.

Also, I'm mistaken. I just crit'd something up in Azshara for 555 shadow damage.
Title: Re: best shadowbolt crit
Post by: Sidoh on July 08, 2006, 01:12:10 AM
Did you recently get the talent point "Ruin?" :p
Title: Re: best shadowbolt crit
Post by: Screenor on July 08, 2006, 07:10:28 PM
Quote from: Joex86] link=topic=6532.msg79224#msg79224 date=1152316171]
Don't nerf warlocks. It's about time they can kill anything. :)

You're kidding, right?
Title: Re: best shadowbolt crit
Post by: Joe on July 08, 2006, 07:16:55 PM
Quote from: Sidoh on July 08, 2006, 01:12:10 AM
Did you recently get the talent point "Ruin?" :p

I recently got rid of Ruin and respecced Affliction.

Quote from: Scr33n0r on July 08, 2006, 07:10:28 PM
You're kidding, right?

Nope.
Title: Re: best shadowbolt crit
Post by: Towelie on July 11, 2006, 04:10:57 AM
Quote from: Joex86] link=topic=6532.msg79428#msg79428 date=1152400615]
Quote from: Sidoh on July 08, 2006, 01:12:10 AM
Did you recently get the talent point "Ruin?" :p

I recently got rid of Ruin and respecced Affliction.

Quote from: Scr33n0r on July 08, 2006, 07:10:28 PM
You're kidding, right?

Nope.
Shadow mastery/ruin ftw. +10% shadow damage, +5% to crit, crits do +100% more bonus damage, after a crit the next 5 sources of shadow dmg do 20% more... you are talking serious fucking damage :D, esp with +% crit and +damage gear
Title: Re: best shadowbolt crit
Post by: Joe on July 11, 2006, 08:37:13 PM
747. Ruin is a keeper.
Title: Re: best shadowbolt crit
Post by: Sidoh on July 11, 2006, 08:44:45 PM
Quote from: Toweliex86] link=topic=6532.msg80046#msg80046 date=1152605457]
Shadow mastery/ruin ftw. +10% shadow damage, +5% to crit, crits do +100% more bonus damage, after a crit the next 5 sources of shadow dmg do 20% more... you are talking serious fucking damage :D, esp with +% crit and +damage gear

Ruin is nice, but for PvE (Non-raiding) and PvP Soul Link is amazing.  It truely is overpowered.  Sure, it can be dispelled in PvP (Half of the people don't even know how to do it anyway), but against classes that can't dispel (everyone that isn't a Shaman or Priest...), it's literally like having 6 shields.

The crits from Ruin may seem very awesome, but they're not reliable.  You can two shot some people, but a lot of the times you're going to be too intent on casting Shadow Bolt and Soul Fire to realize a Rogue behind you just stealthed and will soon come up and two shot you.  Soul Link is awesome because all you have to do is hop around, cast a few dots on people and hop around some more.
Title: Re: best shadowbolt crit
Post by: Towelie on July 12, 2006, 01:51:41 AM
Quote from: Sidoh on July 11, 2006, 08:44:45 PM
Quote from: Toweliex86] link=topic=6532.msg80046#msg80046 date=1152605457]
Shadow mastery/ruin ftw. +10% shadow damage, +5% to crit, crits do +100% more bonus damage, after a crit the next 5 sources of shadow dmg do 20% more... you are talking serious fucking damage :D, esp with +% crit and +damage gear

Ruin is nice, but for PvE (Non-raiding) and PvP Soul Link is amazing.  It truely is overpowered.  Sure, it can be dispelled in PvP (Half of the people don't even know how to do it anyway), but against classes that can't dispel (everyone that isn't a Shaman or Priest...), it's literally like having 6 shields.

The crits from Ruin may seem very awesome, but they're not reliable.  You can two shot some people, but a lot of the times you're going to be too intent on casting Shadow Bolt and Soul Fire to realize a Rogue behind you just stealthed and will soon come up and two shot you.  Soul Link is awesome because all you have to do is hop around, cast a few dots on people and hop around some more.
You are fucking right... but eh :P I love seeing those huge ass crits on the occasion
Title: Re: best shadowbolt crit
Post by: Armin on July 12, 2006, 04:53:01 PM
Quote from: Toweliex86] link=topic=6532.msg79063#msg79063 date=1152248192]
(http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/7540/sbcrit9ow.png)
hehehehe :)
The spell at my rank does 500-550 or so (or it says on the button), but my spec owns that damage. Its a 2.5 second cast btw.
Wait until you get into BWL to these one guys that I've seen warlocks do 4k+ damage to. I hope your MT has good aggro.
Title: Re: best shadowbolt crit
Post by: Sidoh on July 12, 2006, 06:35:44 PM
Quote from: MetaL MilitiA on July 12, 2006, 04:53:01 PM
Wait until you get into BWL to these one guys that I've seen warlocks do 4k+ damage to. I hope your MT has good aggro.

Warlocks in my raid do easily 10,000+.

My leader posted a screenshot of an Ignite Tick for 10,000.  It had stacked two or three times, but the crits must've been massive...
Title: Re: best shadowbolt crit
Post by: Towelie on July 31, 2006, 01:07:16 PM
Well, now that I do BWL, I have another bigger crit! ALMOST 6K!@#!
(http://sidoh.dark-wire.net/upload/viewitem.php?id=264)
Title: Re: best shadowbolt crit
Post by: Sidoh on July 31, 2006, 02:24:26 PM
Too bad that's a totally invalid record. ::)

I've seen mages do 13K with fireballs... I've seen warlocks do 10K+ with shadow bolts.  The vunerabilities those things have make epeening over crits totally useless.
Title: Re: best shadowbolt crit
Post by: Blaze on August 01, 2006, 01:59:34 PM
Quote from: Sidoh on July 31, 2006, 02:24:26 PM
Too bad that's a totally invalid record. ::)

I've seen mages do 13K with fireballs... I've seen warlocks do 10K+ with shadow bolts.  The vunerabilities those things have make epeening over crits totally useless.

My old class leader did a 25k fireball on those mobs in BWL and pulled aggro. ^^
Title: Re: best shadowbolt crit
Post by: Arakasi on August 04, 2006, 01:13:31 AM
Oh yes, Soul Link warlock are extremly overpowered. I use the same strategy Sidoh just said, but I also death coil them if they get close to me. Also with my Black Book trinket my Succubus does around 300-500 damage per hit. The only person who can beat me every time is Sidoh's priest. Damn his shadow resistance.  :-[
Title: Re: best shadowbolt crit
Post by: Krazed on August 06, 2006, 09:41:52 PM
Quote from: Arakasi on August 04, 2006, 01:13:31 AM
Oh yes, Soul Link warlock are extremly overpowered. I use the same strategy Sidoh just said, but I also death coil them if they get close to me. Also with my Black Book trinket my Succubus does around 300-500 damage per hit. The only person who can beat me every time is Sidoh's priest. Damn his shadow resistance.  :-[

Can't you use curse of shadow on him? That should change the outcome of the duel pretty well.
Title: Re: best shadowbolt crit
Post by: Sidoh on August 07, 2006, 12:10:04 AM
Quote from: Krazed on August 06, 2006, 09:41:52 PM
Can't you use curse of shadow on him? That should change the outcome of the duel pretty well.

With buffs, I can get up to ~150 SR.