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Technical (Development, Security, etc.) => Unix / Linux Discussion => Topic started by: Camel on June 18, 2008, 02:42:45 pm

Title: SSH
Post by: Camel on June 18, 2008, 02:42:45 pm
[premise] Software company / core tools group [/premise]

So one of the guys I work with (Neil) asked another guy I work with (John) how to do something. The answer John gave involved using SSH, which Neil immediately admitted to have never used. I'm stunned. Neil has been working at the company for longer than I have, and I use SSH on 9 out of 10 days.

He'd also never hear of 'touch' or 'kill', which I also found amusing.
Title: Re: SSH
Post by: Explicit on June 19, 2008, 01:10:01 am
One word: wow.
Title: Re: SSH
Post by: iago on June 19, 2008, 08:18:35 am
Perhaps he's a telnet fan? *shiver*
Title: Re: SSH
Post by: Camel on June 19, 2008, 03:01:41 pm
Actually, we do use a lot of telnet at the company *inside* of the black box, since it theoretically has less overhead, and the black box is physically secure.

But the person I'm referring to does not ever deal with that stuff; judging the lack of knowledge of touch and kill, I'm guessing he's just never interacted with a unix machine before.
Title: Re: SSH
Post by: iago on June 19, 2008, 03:06:48 pm
Ah, an M&M style network. Gotta love 'em!
Title: Re: SSH
Post by: warz on June 19, 2008, 05:06:23 pm
I'm not sure why this is surprising. :P
Title: Re: SSH
Post by: Camel on June 20, 2008, 03:57:12 pm
Ah, an M&M style network. Gotta love 'em!

Eh?
Title: Re: SSH
Post by: iago on June 20, 2008, 04:13:32 pm
Ah, an M&M style network. Gotta love 'em!

Eh?

Hard on the outside, soft on the inside.

(It's pretty much the status quo for networks, right now, at least until 802.1x or similar becomes commonplace)
Title: Re: SSH
Post by: Camel on June 22, 2008, 03:26:51 am
I can't go in to details, but what I can say is that the data on the wires isn't sensitive even if it is intercepted. If you could inject packets in to the network, you could do some serious damage, like setting of a cascade failure of all the RNCs in a city (because it's QA'd against a physically secure network).
Title: Re: SSH
Post by: Lead on July 15, 2008, 03:51:33 pm
I can't go in to details, but what I can say is that the data on the wires isn't sensitive even if it is intercepted. If you could inject packets in to the network, you could do some serious damage, like setting of a cascade failure of all the RNCs in a city (because it's QA'd against a physically secure network).

Ask him what PuTTy is and see if he responds "that goo you get in that plastic easter egg at the grocery store"
Title: Re: SSH
Post by: Blaze on July 15, 2008, 11:42:01 pm
I can't go in to details, but what I can say is that the data on the wires isn't sensitive even if it is intercepted. If you could inject packets in to the network, you could do some serious damage, like setting of a cascade failure of all the RNCs in a city (because it's QA'd against a physically secure network).

Ask him what PuTTy is and see if he responds "that goo you get in that plastic easter egg at the grocery store"

The program that got me through high school.  :)
Title: Re: SSH
Post by: Camel on July 16, 2008, 03:40:48 am
Ask him what PuTTy is and see if he responds "that goo you get in that plastic easter egg at the grocery store"

I already got him set up with PuTTy, actually, so that would be a really awkward thing to ask.
Title: Re: SSH
Post by: Lead on July 16, 2008, 08:12:54 am
Ask him what PuTTy is and see if he responds "that goo you get in that plastic easter egg at the grocery store"

I already got him set up with PuTTy, actually, so that would be a really awkward thing to ask.

But before that, what would he say?