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Man has $23,000 taken by DEA. Bonus: He didn't do anything wrong

Started by CrAz3D, August 25, 2007, 01:16:00 PM

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CrAz3D

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/5081398.html

Sure it's possible (and maybe even probable) that the money is from drugs, but with not proof it's F'D up the authorities to seize that man's money.  Maybe he's just one of those conspiracy theorists that is afraid that the government will take his money if he keeps it in the bank.  And if so, looks like his suspicions are true.

Explicit

I'm not sure if you're going to find this as interesting as I did, but it's definitely something to be outraged over:

http://forum.weedspotter.com/legal/455-budthirsty-washington-state-patrol-will-do-almost-anything-bust.html
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Newby

You know, CrAz3D, if you don't slant the entire article straight from the title, people might like, read your topics and read your threads. But until then, every time I see something offensive right from the title, I tend to avoid it. I'm sure others do too. :/
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Quote from: Rule on June 30, 2008, 01:13:20 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on June 30, 2008, 10:38:22 AM
I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

deadly7

Quote from: Newby on August 25, 2007, 02:38:58 PM
You know, CrAz3D, if you don't slant the entire article straight from the title, people might like, read your topics and read your threads. But until then, every time I see something offensive right from the title, I tend to avoid it. I'm sure others do too. :/
What kind of good Republican tells it straight?  Honestly.
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CrAz3D

Quote from: Explicit[nK] on August 25, 2007, 02:21:57 PM
I'm not sure if you're going to find this as interesting as I did, but it's definitely something to be outraged over:
http://forum.weedspotter.com/legal/455-budthirsty-washington-state-patrol-will-do-almost-anything-bust.html
That is jacked up.  I dislike abuses of authority like that.  Cops tend to think themselves above the law, it annoys the crap out of me.

Quote from: Newby on August 25, 2007, 02:38:58 PM
You know, CrAz3D, if you don't slant the entire article straight from the title, people might like, read your topics and read your threads. But until then, every time I see something offensive right from the title, I tend to avoid it. I'm sure others do too. :/
I suppose my title could've been less vulgar, but it is true nonetheless. 
Some over zealous cops took a man's money without good reason or evidence because they believed him to be a drug dealer of sorts.  What happened to "innocent until proven guilty"?
There have been other news stories like this where money gets seized based on the slightest suspicion and then the suspected criminal ends up having to spend money in legal fees to get some of it back.  Where is the justice in any of this?

Quote from: deadly7 on August 25, 2007, 02:53:16 PM
Quote from: Newby on August 25, 2007, 02:38:58 PM
You know, CrAz3D, if you don't slant the entire article straight from the title, people might like, read your topics and read your threads. But until then, every time I see something offensive right from the title, I tend to avoid it. I'm sure others do too. :/
What kind of good Republican tells it straight?  Honestly.
Don't you have a cow to go eat or something?

Newby

Quote from: CrAz3D on August 25, 2007, 03:16:44 PM
I suppose my title could've been less vulgar, but it is true nonetheless. 
Some over zealous cops took a man's money without good reason or evidence because they believed him to be a drug dealer of sorts.  What happened to "innocent until proven guilty"?
There have been other news stories like this where money gets seized based on the slightest suspicion and then the suspected criminal ends up having to spend money in legal fees to get some of it back.  Where is the justice in any of this?

It's not about what happens. It's about naming the facts with as little bias as possible. Remain neutral. You can rant and rave about how unfair it is in the topic itself, but come on, the title is important. You could have done "Washington police arrest parents of little accident surviving girl" and then explained what happened. "Douche bag cops/fucked up system" is not very specific. At all.
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Quote from: Rule on June 30, 2008, 01:13:20 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on June 30, 2008, 10:38:22 AM
I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

CrAz3D


Newby

Quote from: CrAz3D on August 25, 2007, 03:22:05 PM
That was Explicit's article, but ok ;)

Lose the bonus. Life will be good.

Or consolidate: "Man has possible drug-money seized by DEA"
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[17:33:02] <xar> me and newby rule all

Quote from: Rule on June 30, 2008, 01:13:20 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on June 30, 2008, 10:38:22 AM
I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

iago

Something doesn't add up about that:

QuoteAnastasio Prieto of El Paso gave a state police officer at the weigh station permission to search the truck to see if it contained "needles or cash in excess of $10,000," according to the American Civil Liberties Union, which filed the federal lawsuit Thursday.

That's sort of glossed over -- why were they specifically searching for needles or money?

CrAz3D

They probably just asked.  We have A LOT of friggin drugs that come up through here

Joe

Quote from: Newby on August 25, 2007, 02:38:58 PM
You know, CrAz3D, if you don't slant the entire article straight from the title, people might like, read your topics and read your threads. But until then, every time I see something offensive right from the title, I tend to avoid it. I'm sure others do too. :/

Actually, this is about a douchebag cop and a fucked up system, though..
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iago

Quote from: CrAz3D on August 26, 2007, 12:00:07 AM
They probably just asked.  We have A LOT of friggin drugs that come up through here
I doubt they walk up to everybody and say "can we search for needles and money?". That's way too specific and vague.

zorm

Quote from: iago on August 26, 2007, 03:20:59 AM
I doubt they walk up to everybody and say "can we search for needles and money?". That's way too specific and vague.

They probably had suspisions about the guy and needles and money are two things that AFAIK dogs can't really sniff for or might not be trained to sniff for. Which is probably why they needed to search by hand for them.

Is it just and legal? Well thats for the court to decide.
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CrAz3D

Well, since they had no evidence/reason to seize his money, it IS unjust.

Warrior

Pretty sure it's legal for money to be taken as drug money on basis of suspicion. It's not like they'll keep it if it turns out to be wrong.
If your money is taken for drug related purposes, chances are you're behind bars without the ability to spend it anyhow.
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