Dataloss Bug in Leopard

[Warrior]

http://tomkarpik.com/articles/massive-data-loss-bug-in-leopard/


"Leopard's Finder has a glaring bug in its directory-moving code, leading to horrendous data loss if a destination volume disappears while a move operation is in action. I first came across it when Samba crashed while I was moving a directory from my desktop over to a Samba mount on my FreeBSD server.

I've now run tests on a Windows XP SP2 SMB mount, as well as a local HFS+ formatted USB drive, and the bug surfaces every time the destination disappears while the Finder is moving something to the destination."

In short, upon any condition that a Move operation fails the source directory is still deleted. This source dir should only be deleted if the transfer to the destination did not fail.

The bug has existed since Panther, I guess it blows any sort of "Microsoft is late to fixing bugs" complaints right into hypocrisy.

[Blaze]

There was a windows update for Windows 2000 that created a data-loss bug.  If a hard drive was using compression and was accessed, it would lose data every time something was saved, IIRC.  :P

This is still a pretty serious bug.  :P

[Sidoh]

According to my friend, "it only happens if you have a file that's over the size of 500 MB".

That still sucks, but at least it's well known (he knew about it before I sent him the link).

[Warrior]

Test file in the article is 384MB. Seems any operation that takes over 10 seconds, so it may very well depend on hardware though

[Warrior]

That still sucks, but at least it's well known (he knew about it before I sent him the link).

I don't see this as a plus. At all. The fact that it's been known for now two point releases is astounding. It's a severe bug, which can result in data-loss. The fact that this even got out of QA is amazing.

I'm sure if this were happening to Vista, the entire internet would be apeshit demanding a fix. It happens to OSX and people learn to live with it..

Seems Apple focused more on making Finder pretty, as opposed to fixing a glaring bug which has been present since Panther. But hey, at least they have the iPhone.

[chuck]

At least its a bug, and not a feature. ;)

[Sidoh]

x86] link=topic=10605.msg135145#msg135145 date=1194357723]

That still sucks, but at least it's well known (he knew about it before I sent him the link).

I don't see this as a plus. At all. The fact that it's been known for now two point releases is astounding. It's a severe bug, which can result in data-loss. The fact that this even got out of QA is amazing.

I'm sure if this were happening to Vista, the entire internet would be apeshit demanding a fix. It happens to OSX and people learn to live with it..

Seems Apple focused more on making Finder pretty, as opposed to fixing a glaring bug which has been present since Panther. But hey, at least they have the iPhone.

How is it being well known not good for the user? :P

[Warrior]

x86] link=topic=10605.msg135145#msg135145 date=1194357723]

That still sucks, but at least it's well known (he knew about it before I sent him the link).

I don't see this as a plus. At all. The fact that it's been known for now two point releases is astounding. It's a severe bug, which can result in data-loss. The fact that this even got out of QA is amazing.

I'm sure if this were happening to Vista, the entire internet would be apeshit demanding a fix. It happens to OSX and people learn to live with it..

Seems Apple focused more on making Finder pretty, as opposed to fixing a glaring bug which has been present since Panther. But hey, at least they have the iPhone.

How is it being well known not good for the user? :P

Ah, I thought you meant at Apple.
I think that while it's good the users know of the bug, it's obvious not enough really know since it's cropping up again. It's a very dangerous bug, which is pretty easy to reproduce.

[Hitmen]

Ugh, more microsoft v apple. Same shit different platform. Buy whichever turd you perfer.

[Warrior]

Ugh, more microsoft v apple. Same shit different platform. Buy whichever turd you perfer.

What exactly do you want them to do? Hold hands? This is competition, and the consumer deserves the right to inquire about the quality of the product he/she is buying.

[MyndFyre]

War, stop being such a bleeting fanboy.

[Warrior]

x86/64] link=topic=10605.msg135188#msg135188 date=1194370712]
War, stop being such a bleeting fanboy.

I'm pointing out flaws in a flawed system, while at the same time asking others to try to justify the fact that such a critical bug was ignored.

I will admit, I'm having fun.

[iago]

x86] link=topic=10605.msg135182#msg135182 date=1194368328]

Ugh, more microsoft v apple. Same shit different platform. Buy whichever turd you perfer.

What exactly do you want them to do? Hold hands? This is competition, and the consumer deserves the right to inquire about the quality of the product he/she is buying.

If they worked together, they'd both have a better product. But they don't, so they both have worse products than otherwise.

That's why competition (and, hence, capitalism) sucks. :)

[MyndFyre]

Do you think that your little tank notebook would exist if not for competition? :P

[Warrior]

x86] link=topic=10605.msg135182#msg135182 date=1194368328]

Ugh, more microsoft v apple. Same shit different platform. Buy whichever turd you perfer.

What exactly do you want them to do? Hold hands? This is competition, and the consumer deserves the right to inquire about the quality of the product he/she is buying.

If they worked together, they'd both have a better product. But they don't, so they both have worse products than otherwise.

That's why competition (and, hence, capitalism) sucks. :)

What happens when the one unified company achieves complete domination of the market? There is no incentive to deliver a better product, innovation is stagnated.