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Started by Ender, December 25, 2007, 05:20:01 PM

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Ender

CrAz3d, are you getting that gun for hunting animals?

trust

Quote from: Ender on December 25, 2007, 05:20:01 PM
CrAz3d, are you getting that gun for hunting animals?

My school allows rifles. I don't see why it's a problem... (but that's for a different thread)

Rule

Quote from: Trust on December 25, 2007, 05:24:11 PM
Quote from: Ender on December 25, 2007, 05:20:01 PM
CrAz3d, are you getting that gun for hunting animals?

My school allows rifles. I don't see why it's a problem... (but that's for a different thread)


Your point, and how your post relates to Ender's question, isn't very clear.

trust

Quote from: Rule on December 25, 2007, 06:28:32 PM
Quote from: Trust on December 25, 2007, 05:24:11 PM
Quote from: Ender on December 25, 2007, 05:20:01 PM
CrAz3d, are you getting that gun for hunting animals?

My school allows rifles. I don't see why it's a problem... (but that's for a different thread)


Your point, and how your post relates to Ender's question, isn't very clear.


Originally the post said something along the lines of: "Your getting a gun to keep on a college campus?" or something of that nature. Or maybe I'm just going crazy.

CrAz3D

Quote from: Ender on December 25, 2007, 05:20:01 PM
CrAz3d, are you getting that gun for hunting animals?
Rifle, yes; 9mm, no...well, maybe. 
I can go crazy on coyotes with the 9mm, a nice .22 rifle would be fun for that, too. 

After tomorrow's trip I'll have my .22 revolver (I want to make new grips for it, I'd need a nice chisel and some HARD wood and good templates), a rifle, maybe a S&W 9mm, and a (hopefully) working gun safe

Rule

Quote from: CrAz3D on December 25, 2007, 08:40:16 PM
I can go crazy on coyotes with the 9mm, a nice .22 rifle would be fun for that, too. 

Don't you think it's in bad spirits to terrorize and kill intelligent animals just for amusement? 

Ender

It's also plain stupid to store a gun on a college campus. It doesn't improve your safety; it does the opposite. And, as stated, hunting for amusement is evil. Since hunting and safety are ruled out as motivations, there's no good reason to having a gun on campus.

CrAz3D

Quote from: Rule on December 25, 2007, 10:08:32 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on December 25, 2007, 08:40:16 PM
I can go crazy on coyotes with the 9mm, a nice .22 rifle would be fun for that, too. 
Don't you think it's in bad spirits to terrorize and kill intelligent animals just for amusement? 
Coyote shooting is encouraged in most places.  Sometimes you even money if you bring in their ears, not sure if my county is (still?) like that.

MyndFyre

Quote from: CrAz3D on December 26, 2007, 12:49:37 AM
Coyote shooting is encouraged in most places.  Sometimes you even money if you bring in their ears, not sure if my county is (still?) like that.
WTF?  You should be banned.  Go to Old Mexico for that.  Stay out of the new one.

Quote from: Ender on December 25, 2007, 10:33:15 PM
And, as stated, hunting for amusement is evil.
While I would tend to agree, stating it in one post does not qualify as establishing fact.  Particularly if you cite it in the post immediately following the initial statement. :P
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Quote from: Rule on May 26, 2009, 02:02:12 PMOur species really annoys me.

MyndFyre

Quote from: Joe on January 23, 2011, 11:47:54 PM
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Quote from: Rule on May 26, 2009, 02:02:12 PMOur species really annoys me.

CrAz3D

Quote from: MyndFyre on December 26, 2007, 01:46:44 AM
Damn mormons.  ^^
http://wolfsaga.blogspot.com/2006/10/utah-offers-bounty-for-dead-coyote.html
Page 6, under the title "Rabbits and other non-game species"

"Residents are not required to have a hunting license to take rabbits or other nongame species.
Common nongame species include coyotes, skunks, rabbits, and rock squirrels."

Rule

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Quote from: CrAz3D on December 26, 2007, 01:49:56 AM
Quote from: MyndFyre on December 26, 2007, 01:46:44 AM
Damn mormons.  ^^
http://wolfsaga.blogspot.com/2006/10/utah-offers-bounty-for-dead-coyote.html
Page 6, under the title "Rabbits and other non-game species"

"Residents are not required to have a hunting license to take rabbits or other nongame species.
Common nongame species include coyotes, skunks, rabbits, and rock squirrels."

You didn't really respond to my comment.  Don't you think it's in bad spirits to terrorize and kill intelligent animals just for amusement?  You would be hunting because you derive pleasure from the adrenaline and uncertainty that comes with stalking, terrorizing, and hopefully killing, an intelligent animal in an unfair game.  Otherwise you would refer to it as a "duty", and not as fun.  A reward, and the idea that you are ridding the world of a pest, serve as comforting rationalisations.  Armed with these, and without deeply considering the essence of what you're doing and why you enjoy it, I can understand how this sport is appealing.  But when you think about the striking parallels between hunting and abusive activities we -- you, I, and most others -- actively deem people mentally sick for enjoying, doesn't it turn you off?   That by the end of the day, you've scared, disrespected, and ultimately killed, a conscious, feeling, wild animal, in exchange for some short-lived adrenaline (provided you don't think too deeply about what you're doing) and a pat on the back for a job well done.

CrAz3D

Quote from: Rule on December 26, 2007, 02:27:43 AM
Quote from: CrAz3D on December 26, 2007, 01:49:56 AM
Quote from: MyndFyre on December 26, 2007, 01:46:44 AM
Damn mormons.  ^^
http://wolfsaga.blogspot.com/2006/10/utah-offers-bounty-for-dead-coyote.html
Page 6, under the title "Rabbits and other non-game species"

"Residents are not required to have a hunting license to take rabbits or other nongame species.
Common nongame species include coyotes, skunks, rabbits, and rock squirrels."

You didn't really respond to my comment.  Don't you think it's in bad spirits to terrorize and kill intelligent animals just for amusement?  You would be hunting because you derive pleasure from the adrenaline and uncertainty that comes with stalking, terrorizing, and hopefully killing, an intelligent animal in an unfair game.  Otherwise you would refer to it as a "duty", and not as fun.  A reward, and the idea that you are ridding the world of a pest, serve as comforting rationalisations.  Armed with these, and without deeply considering the essence of what you're doing and why you enjoy it, I can understand how this sport is appealing.  But when you think about the striking parallels between hunting and abusive activities we -- you, I, and most others -- actively deem people mentally sick for enjoying, doesn't it turn you off?   That by the end of the day, you've scared, disrespected, and ultimately killed, a conscious, feeling, wild animal, in exchange for some short-lived adrenaline (provided you don't think too deeply about what you're doing) and a pat on the back for a job well done.
Sure it'd be fun.  Sure it'd be helpful.  Sure it's ok to do.

This is definitely not something deemed "mentally sick" by most around here.  You are apart of a different culture.  We, most others and myself, mock Canadians just for their inherent suckiness, you probably disagree with that ;D.

iago

Quote from: CrAz3D on December 26, 2007, 12:49:37 AM
Quote from: Rule on December 25, 2007, 10:08:32 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on December 25, 2007, 08:40:16 PM
I can go crazy on coyotes with the 9mm, a nice .22 rifle would be fun for that, too. 
Don't you think it's in bad spirits to terrorize and kill intelligent animals just for amusement? 
Coyote shooting is encouraged in most places.  Sometimes you even money if you bring in their ears, not sure if my county is (still?) like that.
I've said this many times before, but I'll say it again: just because something is legal or encouraged by society, that doesn't mean it's right or good. You have to think for yourself and evaluate your actions based on moral criteria, not on laws.

CrAz3D

My morals and culture say okey dokey to shootin' coyote.