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Started by CrAz3D, August 18, 2008, 04:35:57 PM

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Rule


Lead

Yes I meant raping, setting cats on fire (NEDM reference), and touching little children like the old man on Family Guy.

When I say "regardless of what hes doing" I am constraining that phrase into the bounds of legality.


QuoteSon, if you really want something in this life, you have to work for it. Now quiet! They're about to announce the lottery numbers. - Homer Simpson

iago

Quote from: CrAz3D on August 18, 2008, 06:54:43 PM
QuoteWhen are you going to get kicked out of x86, btw?
So it appears as though someone is showing you the member forums?  Sounds like an interesting breach of security
That reminds me of a Seinfeld quote:

Elaine: Hey George, Jerry says you get this sweater on discount because of a red spot
George: Jerry, how could you betray me?
Jerry: She tricked you, you idiot! I never told her!

Rule

#18
CrAz3D just caused a breach of security by revealing private clan information! :O
Immediate grounds for expulsion?


Blaze

Quote from: Rule on August 18, 2008, 07:20:43 PM
CrAz3D just caused a breach of security by revealing private clan information! :O
Immediate grounds for expulsion?



Haha, win!

And like a fool I believed myself, and thought I was somebody else...

dark_drake

I fail to see the problem with hunting. It helps keep the animal population in check so many of them don't end up starving in the winter. Starvation might be considered the natural order of things, whereas a bullet to the chest is pretty uncommon in nature. Then again, starving seems to be a lot crueler.
errr... something like that...

Lead

#21
Quote from: dark_drake on August 18, 2008, 07:49:58 PM
I fail to see the problem with hunting. It helps keep the animal population in check so many of them don't end up starving in the winter. Starvation might be considered the natural order of things, whereas a bullet to the chest is pretty uncommon in nature. Then again, starving seems to be a lot crueler.

Sorry that not all of us are vegan iago :P

Edit: Yes that was an indirect statement


QuoteSon, if you really want something in this life, you have to work for it. Now quiet! They're about to announce the lottery numbers. - Homer Simpson

iago

Quote from: Lead on August 18, 2008, 07:51:04 PM
Quote from: dark_drake on August 18, 2008, 07:49:58 PM
I fail to see the problem with hunting. It helps keep the animal population in check so many of them don't end up starving in the winter. Starvation might be considered the natural order of things, whereas a bullet to the chest is pretty uncommon in nature. Then again, starving seems to be a lot crueler.

Sorry that not all of us are vegan iago :P

To be fair, I argued in FAVOUR (that's "favor") of hunting; at least, in most ways, it's better than farming.

Warrior

Quote from: Rule on August 18, 2008, 07:08:48 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on August 18, 2008, 06:54:43 PM
QuoteWhen are you going to get kicked out of x86, btw?
So it appears as though someone is showing you the member forums?  Sounds like an interesting breach of security

No-one had told me that.  Thanks for confirming the obvious though. lol!



LOL. Way to go.
One must ask oneself: "do I will trolling to become a universal law?" And then when one realizes "yes, I do will it to be such," one feels completely justified.
-- from Groundwork for the Metaphysics of Trolling

Lead

Quote from: iago on August 18, 2008, 07:55:12 PM
Quote from: Lead on August 18, 2008, 07:51:04 PM
Quote from: dark_drake on August 18, 2008, 07:49:58 PM
I fail to see the problem with hunting. It helps keep the animal population in check so many of them don't end up starving in the winter. Starvation might be considered the natural order of things, whereas a bullet to the chest is pretty uncommon in nature. Then again, starving seems to be a lot crueler.

Sorry that not all of us are vegan iago :P

To be fair, I argued in FAVOUR (that's "favor") of hunting; at least, in most ways, it's better than farming.


That is why I put my edit in my thread :P


QuoteSon, if you really want something in this life, you have to work for it. Now quiet! They're about to announce the lottery numbers. - Homer Simpson

Camel

I should clarify: I mean to say that shooting an animal as a point of pride is a vile act. If the intent is to use the animal as a resource, then I feel it's justified.

Quote from: iago on August 18, 2008, 06:32:46 PM
Quote from: Camel on August 18, 2008, 05:39:14 PM
That's exactly the same logic for why I think hunting is vile. That's not to say I'm going to stop eating meat or anything, I just think that shooting a wild animal is cruel.
That's totally insane. Farming animals is unimaginably more cruel than hunting. At least hunting it's one instance of pain and that's it (generally), you aren't imprisoning them their whole life and keeping them just alive enough to be food!
There are farms where animals are raised to be hunted; they are most definitely not mutually exclusive.

As far as cruelty in farming goes, what you're referring to is primarily a problem with poultry, which I don't generally eat anyways. Thanksgiving is one major exception.

<Camel> i said what what
<Blaze> in the butt
<Camel> you want to do it in my butt?
<Blaze> in my butt
<Camel> let's do it in the butt
<Blaze> Okay!

Camel

Quote from: dark_drake on August 18, 2008, 07:49:58 PM
I fail to see the problem with hunting. It helps keep the animal population in check so many of them don't end up starving in the winter. Starvation might be considered the natural order of things, whereas a bullet to the chest is pretty uncommon in nature. Then again, starving seems to be a lot crueler.

That's total bullshit. What do you think they did before our species evolved?

Inaction can not be immoral.

<Camel> i said what what
<Blaze> in the butt
<Camel> you want to do it in my butt?
<Blaze> in my butt
<Camel> let's do it in the butt
<Blaze> Okay!

Sidoh

Quote from: Camel on August 19, 2008, 10:29:46 AM
Quote from: dark_drake on August 18, 2008, 07:49:58 PM
I fail to see the problem with hunting. It helps keep the animal population in check so many of them don't end up starving in the winter. Starvation might be considered the natural order of things, whereas a bullet to the chest is pretty uncommon in nature. Then again, starving seems to be a lot crueler.

That's total bullshit. What do you think they did before our species evolved?

Painfully obvious.

Quote from: Camel on August 19, 2008, 10:29:46 AM
Inaction can not be immoral.

That's total bullshit.  If you're sitting in a lawn chair, sipping iced tea by a lake when you see a stranger drowning, inaction would be staying in your chair and doing nothing about it.  That's pretty clearly immoral.

iago

Quote from: Camel on August 19, 2008, 10:26:08 AM
Quote from: iago on August 18, 2008, 06:32:46 PM
That's totally insane. Farming animals is unimaginably more cruel than hunting. At least hunting it's one instance of pain and that's it (generally), you aren't imprisoning them their whole life and keeping them just alive enough to be food!
There are farms where animals are raised to be hunted; they are most definitely not mutually exclusive.

As far as cruelty in farming goes, what you're referring to is primarily a problem with poultry, which I don't generally eat anyways. Thanksgiving is one major exception.
I obviously meant in the general case.

And it's not just poultry, farming is cruel at the best of times (it's basically equivalent of raising humans in jail) (and it's rarely the best of times).

dark_drake

Quote from: Camel on August 19, 2008, 10:29:46 AM
Quote from: dark_drake on August 18, 2008, 07:49:58 PM
I fail to see the problem with hunting. It helps keep the animal population in check so many of them don't end up starving in the winter. Starvation might be considered the natural order of things, whereas a bullet to the chest is pretty uncommon in nature. Then again, starving seems to be a lot crueler.
That's total bullshit. What do you think they did before our species evolved?
My guess would be that other predators kept their populations in check. Of course, there was still that life cycle where there'd be tons of predators, not much prey, so a bunch of predators died off, and the prey made a return. This would let the predators come back in force, and the cycle goes on. Unfortunately, humans kicked the shit out of predator populations, leaving man as the only viable predator in many regions. Hunting works. It keeps the populations in check, and people get food out of it.

Besides, it's not like sportsmen are going out and killing most of these animals just for hell of it. It might not just be for food, but I've yet to meet a hunter who lets game meat just go to waste.
errr... something like that...