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Started by iago, November 04, 2009, 07:28:17 PM

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Joe

Quote from: Camel on June 09, 2009, 04:12:23 PMI'd personally do as Joe suggests

Quote from: AntiVirus on October 19, 2010, 02:36:52 PM
You might be right about that, Joe.


Sidoh

iago, have you considered putting dd-wrt on your router?  There's a feature that allows you to do scheduled reboots.

iago

Yeah, I've considered it. But I don't like running unofficial software like that in a production-type environment. My biggest concern is that dd-wrt has all kinds of vulnerabilities found on a regular basis.

That being said, it might be a good option. Buying a better router might be a better option. :)

MyndFyre

Quote from: iago on November 07, 2009, 05:52:32 PM
Quote from: MyndFyre on November 07, 2009, 01:16:16 AM
I'm getting ready to offer to host it on the same server where jinxbot.net lives.  Geez.
I think you missed the part where I'm out of town. It's hard to fix something like a broken router without physical access.

Bad luck happens. You'll get over it! :)

I knew you were out of town.  But since the site always happens to go offline whenever you're out of town, I thought you might be amicable to hosting it somewhere that's not dependent on your hardware.
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iago

Quote from: MyndFyre on November 08, 2009, 04:46:28 PM
Quote from: iago on November 07, 2009, 05:52:32 PM
Quote from: MyndFyre on November 07, 2009, 01:16:16 AM
I'm getting ready to offer to host it on the same server where jinxbot.net lives.  Geez.
I think you missed the part where I'm out of town. It's hard to fix something like a broken router without physical access.

Bad luck happens. You'll get over it! :)

I knew you were out of town.  But since the site always happens to go offline whenever you're out of town, I thought you might be amicable to hosting it somewhere that's not dependent on your hardware.
Well, it's just bad luck. We'll see what happens next time I go away (I'm half considering going to DC in February.. dunno if that'll actually happen :) ).

Camel

My non-54g WRT has reboot.

Then again, it has DD-WRT on it, too.

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Joe

When you restructure your Virtual Machines, I'd recommend (on no educational basis) using the host operating system for two functions: A router, and a VM host. That way, next time something bad happens, SSH into the host machine, issue a "reboot now", and then cleverly written boot scripts restart all your VMs and whatnot.

Opinion?
Quote from: Camel on June 09, 2009, 04:12:23 PMI'd personally do as Joe suggests

Quote from: AntiVirus on October 19, 2010, 02:36:52 PM
You might be right about that, Joe.


Sidoh

Quote from: iago on November 08, 2009, 04:43:15 PM
Yeah, I've considered it. But I don't like running unofficial software like that in a production-type environment. My biggest concern is that dd-wrt has all kinds of vulnerabilities found on a regular basis.

That being said, it might be a good option. Buying a better router might be a better option. :)

Do something so it doesn't die when you go out of town.  I think the forums are doing poorly enough as it is. :P

Armin

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iago

Quote from: Joe on November 08, 2009, 08:02:43 PM
When you restructure your Virtual Machines, I'd recommend (on no educational basis) using the host operating system for two functions: A router, and a VM host. That way, next time something bad happens, SSH into the host machine, issue a "reboot now", and then cleverly written boot scripts restart all your VMs and whatnot.

Opinion?
I used to do that. The problem is, my current connection is PPPoE, and drops pretty regularly. My Linksys router is pretty good at re-establishing the connection quickly, Linux might not be so good. My friend used to use Linux for PPPoE, and he got a lot of nasty crashes.

Sidoh

whatever it is, it needs fixing.  FIX IT.

how do I recommend you do that?  it's a simple, three step plam:

1) FIX IT
2) FIX IT
and finally, 3) FIX IT.

Lead

Quote from: Sidoh on November 11, 2009, 10:28:37 AM
whatever it is, it needs fixing.  FIX IT.

how do I recommend you do that?  it's a simple, three step plam:

1) FIX IT
2) FIX IT
and finally, 3) FIX IT.

You forgot 4) ????? and 5) Profit.


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Blaze

Quote from: Sidoh on November 11, 2009, 10:28:37 AM
whatever it is, it needs fixing.  FIX IT.

how do I recommend you do that?  it's a simple, three step plam:

1) FIX IT
2) FIX IT
and finally, 3) FIX IT.

I have a simple 1 step plan:

1) Succeed.

If you follow the plan, you're golden.
And like a fool I believed myself, and thought I was somebody else...

Camel

Quote from: iago on November 09, 2009, 06:55:15 AM
My Linksys router is pretty good at re-establishing the connection quickly, Linux might not be so good. My friend used to use Linux for PPPoE, and he got a lot of nasty crashes.
WRT-54G is Linux, so that's a pretty bad argument :)

When I lived in the Fraternity house, I set up a Gentoo box to serve as a gateway/NATing router. Before we spent the money on the dedicated machine, I tried several different flavors of firmware for WRT-54G (we got three of these so we could get WiFi almost everywhere in the house), and none of them could scale to the ~50 computers on the network. They simply didn't have enough ram to persist that many connections.

We also bought two 20-something-port 100MBit/2-port gigabit switches, which we planted in the attic. It took about a month for me and one other person to finish wiring every room (2 singles, 14 doubles, 2 triples). It's been 4 years, and the system only gone down once in that entire time, due to the power going out.

In going with this solution, I realized how crippled these little boxes really are. As switches, they are fine, but the minute you start relying on a limited-RAM machine to perform NAT, you're pretty screwed. Aside from the obvious benefit of not having to reboot the WRTs six times a day, the internet-bound latency dropped significantly, and WiFi connections stopped dropping.

<Camel> i said what what
<Blaze> in the butt
<Camel> you want to do it in my butt?
<Blaze> in my butt
<Camel> let's do it in the butt
<Blaze> Okay!