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Started by Ender, May 10, 2010, 11:29:54 PM

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deadly7

Quote from: while1 on May 17, 2010, 08:15:18 PM
Quote from: Ender on May 16, 2010, 08:11:30 PM
If you thoughtless Republicans want to argue to the contrary, why don't you pull up some figures yourselves?

Quote from: Ender on May 16, 2010, 11:14:18 PM
Please limit your response to legitimate argument, rather than personal insults.

My my, lil baby can dish it but can't take it, do I hear the wambulance?!?!  WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMM.  You're such a mediocre troll.

Lulz.  You're too funny.  You should run for public office.  You've got the hypocrisy down and the partisanship.  Your trolling style is evident in the way you try and portray yourself as the person that takes the high road, yet in reality you don't and won't hesitate to call out another.  It's amusing.


HAY GUYS, OBAMA IS A BLACK MAN.  AND HIS MIDDLE NAME IS HUSSEIN.  HE MUST BE A TERRRRRRRRRRRRIST (lulz, Bush made me laugh everytime he said terrorist).  ZOMG, OBAMA IS LIKE HITLER AND IS DEFINITELY A SOCIALIST.

ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG.  OBAMA TOUCHED MY PENIS AND MADE ME CALL HIM DADDY.

I love Godwin's Law.
This is why people realized "debating" with him is useless. He's as close minded, if not moreso, than the "Republicans" he accuses us all of being.
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Quote from: Ender on May 10, 2010, 11:29:54 PM
The Dow Jones Average in the past five years: click to see.

Obama was inaugurated on January 20, 2009. He signed the stimulus package in February 2009. Within one month of signing the stimulus package, the Dow Jones average started to rise steadily for the first time in six months. Now, in May 2010, the Dow Jones average is nearing what it was before the recession, and is even slightly above what it was in 2005.

Come on you staunch Republicans. Let's give the man some credit. The stimulus package got the job done. Obama fixed our economy.

OK, so all of Congress acted re: the bailout (which was first done under Bush), then the DOW goes up...and it's all thanks to Obama?

Well then I'm blaming Obama for the market crashing these last few days...even if everyone else says it's Europe's fault.

Ender

Quote from: while1 on May 17, 2010, 08:15:18 PM
Quote from: Ender on May 16, 2010, 08:11:30 PM
If you thoughtless Republicans want to argue to the contrary, why don't you pull up some figures yourselves?

Quote from: Ender on May 16, 2010, 11:14:18 PM
Please limit your response to legitimate argument, rather than personal insults.

My my, lil baby can dish it but can't take it, do I hear the wambulance?!?!  WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMM.  You're such a mediocre troll.

Lulz.  You're too funny.  You should run for public office.  You've got the hypocrisy down and the partisanship.  Your trolling style is evident in the way you try and portray yourself as the person that takes the high road, yet in reality you don't and won't hesitate to call out another.  It's amusing.


HAY GUYS, OBAMA IS A BLACK MAN.  AND HIS MIDDLE NAME IS HUSSEIN.  HE MUST BE A TERRRRRRRRRRRRIST (lulz, Bush made me laugh everytime he said terrorist).  ZOMG, OBAMA IS LIKE HITLER AND IS DEFINITELY A SOCIALIST.

ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG.  OBAMA TOUCHED MY PENIS AND MADE ME CALL HIM DADDY.

I love Godwin's Law.

Quote from: Ender on May 16, 2010, 11:14:18 PM
Quote from: while1 on May 16, 2010, 10:00:53 PM
What you argue cannot be proved nor disproved definitely, so it's pointless arguing over it.  The fact of the matter is that it's not as straight forward as you claim to give Obama 100% credit for the recovery of the DOW and US markets.  Remember, Bush deployed similar 'stimulus' strategies to combat the economic decline back before Obama ever stepped foot into the Oval office.  And it's hard to say the effect of these on the recovery because you must realize that anything Congress or the President does isn't instantaneous effective and takes time to start reaping benefits, so your claims are wildly premature in my opinion.  Only time will tell, and by far it's too premature to do so now.  Indicators of economic recovery go far beyond just the stock markets, which is why your claims are naive.  You're very narrow minded if you think otherwise.

With unemployment still at 9.5%, it will be interesting to watch its trend, especially the impact of the temporary Census jobs.  Again like the stock markets, unemployment fluctuates depending on many different variables, i.e. seasonal trends, and what not.  It's too soon to use any one variable, whether it's the stock markets, unemployment rate, whatever as an indicator of the long term recovery.

It's amusing how you accuse everyone who disagrees with your claim as a thoughtless Republican.  It just sheds doubt on how objective and unbiased your claims are.  Goes to show your partisanship is just as much of the problem as the Republicans, the party of No.  I did not vote this past Presidential election.  I have never voted actually.  I am registered as an independent.  So calling me a dirty Republican or w/e is hilarious.

I used to think you were a pretty smart guy, but then again that was more towards math.  I see that your abilities in other areas are rather disappointing.

All I have to say is: do your research, cite some sources, and don't just spout nonsense without bothering to get any data.

I recommend that you read this article from The Economist: http://www.economist.com/business-finance/displaystory.cfm?story_id=16083498
Or perhaps this: http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2010/04/american_economy

Obviously there is more work to be done, but it is undeniable that our economy is recovering, and that it coincided with the stimulus package. Please limit your response to legitimate argument, rather than personal insults. Comments like "you're very narrow-minded if you think otherwise" do not disprove the "otherwise" you refer to.

Obviously you can't follow through with the text in bold. You are too lazy to actually research the matter and come up with a legitimate argument, so you take the easy way out and call me a troll. Real impressive.

Ender

Quote from: deadly7 on May 17, 2010, 10:38:46 PM
Quote from: while1 on May 17, 2010, 08:15:18 PM
Quote from: Ender on May 16, 2010, 08:11:30 PM
If you thoughtless Republicans want to argue to the contrary, why don't you pull up some figures yourselves?

Quote from: Ender on May 16, 2010, 11:14:18 PM
Please limit your response to legitimate argument, rather than personal insults.

My my, lil baby can dish it but can't take it, do I hear the wambulance?!?!  WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMM.  You're such a mediocre troll.

Lulz.  You're too funny.  You should run for public office.  You've got the hypocrisy down and the partisanship.  Your trolling style is evident in the way you try and portray yourself as the person that takes the high road, yet in reality you don't and won't hesitate to call out another.  It's amusing.


HAY GUYS, OBAMA IS A BLACK MAN.  AND HIS MIDDLE NAME IS HUSSEIN.  HE MUST BE A TERRRRRRRRRRRRIST (lulz, Bush made me laugh everytime he said terrorist).  ZOMG, OBAMA IS LIKE HITLER AND IS DEFINITELY A SOCIALIST.

ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG.  OBAMA TOUCHED MY PENIS AND MADE ME CALL HIM DADDY.

I love Godwin's Law.
This is why people realized "debating" with him is useless. He's as close minded, if not moreso, than the "Republicans" he accuses us all of being.

You suffer from the same dilemma: not once in this thread have you provided a shred of evidence to support your claims. Really guys, these are the times tables of debate - if you are going to make a claim, support it with evidence. Else you are just wasting everyone's time, including your own.

Hitmen

Quote from: while1 on May 17, 2010, 08:15:18 PM
Quote from: Ender on May 16, 2010, 08:11:30 PM
If you thoughtless Republicans want to argue to the contrary, why don't you pull up some figures yourselves?

Quote from: Ender on May 16, 2010, 11:14:18 PM
Please limit your response to legitimate argument, rather than personal insults.

My my, lil baby can dish it but can't take it, do I hear the wambulance?!?!  WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMM.  You're such a mediocre troll.

Lulz.  You're too funny.  You should run for public office.  You've got the hypocrisy down and the partisanship.  Your trolling style is evident in the way you try and portray yourself as the person that takes the high road, yet in reality you don't and won't hesitate to call out another.  It's amusing.


HAY GUYS, OBAMA IS A BLACK MAN.  AND HIS MIDDLE NAME IS HUSSEIN.  HE MUST BE A TERRRRRRRRRRRRIST (lulz, Bush made me laugh everytime he said terrorist).  ZOMG, OBAMA IS LIKE HITLER AND IS DEFINITELY A SOCIALIST.

ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG.  OBAMA TOUCHED MY PENIS AND MADE ME CALL HIM DADDY.

I love Godwin's Law.
not to take sides in this silliness, but this is officially the worst post that has ever been made on these forums
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And by not taking sides, Hitmen means you suck too, Ender.

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while1

Quote from: Hitmen on May 19, 2010, 07:33:13 PM
Quote from: while1 on May 17, 2010, 08:15:18 PM
Quote from: Ender on May 16, 2010, 08:11:30 PM
If you thoughtless Republicans want to argue to the contrary, why don't you pull up some figures yourselves?

Quote from: Ender on May 16, 2010, 11:14:18 PM
Please limit your response to legitimate argument, rather than personal insults.

My my, lil baby can dish it but can't take it, do I hear the wambulance?!?!  WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMM.  You're such a mediocre troll.

Lulz.  You're too funny.  You should run for public office.  You've got the hypocrisy down and the partisanship.  Your trolling style is evident in the way you try and portray yourself as the person that takes the high road, yet in reality you don't and won't hesitate to call out another.  It's amusing.


HAY GUYS, OBAMA IS A BLACK MAN.  AND HIS MIDDLE NAME IS HUSSEIN.  HE MUST BE A TERRRRRRRRRRRRIST (lulz, Bush made me laugh everytime he said terrorist).  ZOMG, OBAMA IS LIKE HITLER AND IS DEFINITELY A SOCIALIST.

ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG.  OBAMA TOUCHED MY PENIS AND MADE ME CALL HIM DADDY.

I love Godwin's Law.
not to take sides in this silliness, but this is officially the worst post that has ever been made on these forums

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Ender

Quote from: Armin on May 19, 2010, 07:51:06 PM
And by not taking sides, Hitmen means you suck too, Ender.

Yes, I speak for Hitmen.

Write me an emo guitar song.

truste1

Quote from: Hitmen on May 19, 2010, 07:33:13 PM
not to take sides in this silliness, but this is officially the worst post that has ever been made on these forums
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