Let's hear it!

[Rule]

The whole name-change thing doesn't matter imo.  I assumed it was obviously a temporary joke.  Krazed getting bitchy turned this into a heated discussion.  Who cares?  It's back to "Let's hear it!".  Life moves on.

[CrAz3D]

The whole name-change thing doesn't matter imo.  I assumed it was obviously a temporary joke.  Krazed getting bitchy turned this into a heated discussion.  Who cares?  It's back to "Let's hear it!".  Life moves on.

CrAz3D, not Krazed....lrn2reed



The Office rocks.  I own seasons 1 & 2, watched season 3 yesterday and today, and am currently watching season 4.  Sad that I'm nearly out of seasons to watch

[Rule]

The whole name-change thing doesn't matter imo.  I assumed it was obviously a temporary joke.  Krazed getting bitchy turned this into a heated discussion.  Who cares?  It's back to "Let's hear it!".  Life moves on.

CrAz3D, not Krazed....lrn2reed

No, Krazed, not CrAz3D.  Learn to not be CrAz3D. lrn2nbC.

[CrAz3D]

NBC?  TV?  Huh?  The Office?  Yes, I do enjoy it...why thank you.

[Krazed]

The whole name-change thing doesn't matter imo.  I assumed it was obviously a temporary joke.  Krazed getting bitchy turned this into a heated discussion.  Who cares?  It's back to "Let's hear it!".  Life moves on.

It's just annoying.

[truste1]

rabbit, I did have a problem with you doing it..I just didn't care enough to say anything. it's not like me saying "oh, btw, I disapprove" is going to change anything.

[Ender]

Who cares about editing posts? I do that all the time to Joe.

[Super_X]

Who cares about editing posts? I do that all the time to Joe.

And, we all thank you for it.

[Newby]

Well a few people asked for me to change the name so I did.  Nobody told me NOT to, especially you Krazed, so there's an emphatic FUCK OFF.  And a note to everyone else: I haven't edited any posts, except my own.

Who? I'LL BAN 'EM!

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I clogged my toilet. My dad doesn't own a plunger. Short of buying a plunger, wtf do I do?

[rabbit]

Use your hand?

[Newby]

It fixed itself. Magic.

[Blaze]

Quite.  p_o

[Camel]

"Tier 1" is pretty much such a loaded/marketing term that it's about useless for any sort of technical evaluation.

The generally accepted meaning for "Tier 1" is a provider that does not pay for transit.  This really doesn't have any direct correlation to the quality of service they provide, or how much bandwidth they might be willing to offer you.  (And, in fact, peering with a single "Tier 1" provider exclusively for all connectivity can be dangerous, c.f. all of the various depeering disputes that Cogent likes to have with TeliaSonera, Level3, etc.)

That being said, all of the universities I have had interactions with did not get their bandwidth exclusively from anyone meeting the above definition of "Tier 1".  (Edit: There might well be univerisities that do fall under that category, but certainly not all of them, and buying from a "Tier 1" provider or not is not a particularly meaningful way to characterise the quality of their network connectivity.)

That's pretty interesting, because I have always had a totally different notion of what Tier 1 means. If you characterize the internet as a tree, you can usually move up 2-3 steps from "guy with dial-up modem" before you get to a network which is so large that it is under peering agreements. At that point, the tree analogy breaks down, because that network has connections to "the internet" in more than just one single direction; that's the Tier 1 distinction I am referring to.

I realize that it's an imprecise definition, but you still have to admit that it would be pretty unrealistic for any Tier 1 network not to have ungodly amounts of bandwidth; I think it's safe to speculate that peering happens exclusively at the point where it's no longer reliable to measure the amount data being transferred.

[Skywing]

Actually, settlment-free peering is pretty much exclusively about the amount of transit happening in either direction.  Most peering/depeering disputes between Tier-1 providers (and sometimes their customers) tend to happen over one side thinking that they are receiving a great deal more transit than they are passing on to the other end - that the other end is "getting a free lunch", so to speak.

[rabbit]

I started doing the hundred pushups deal.  Hopefully results will follow.