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Started by Krazed, June 12, 2005, 08:59:30 PM

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iago

Quote from: Kaleeko on November 05, 2008, 02:23:12 PM
Well, apparently assisted suicide is now legal in Washington (having only been previously legal in Oregon). So... You can SORT of kill people. They just have to want to die. XD
So are Emos full game?

(I kid)

topaz~

At least it was 53/47. There's a good chance gay marriage will be legalized in another decade or two.

while1

Oh man, I love tutoring the general education intro to computer science course for UPE's community service hours.  I love women who smell good.
I tend to edit my topics and replies frequently.

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dark_drake

errr... something like that...

Ender

Quote from: dark_drake on November 05, 2008, 06:03:46 PM
Quote from: while1 on November 05, 2008, 05:18:56 PM
I love women who smell good.
I'll second this.

Actually I prefer it when girls don't wear perfume, but it's not a strong preference. Not sure if that's what you guys are saying, though.

Quik

Quote from: rabbit on November 05, 2008, 09:07:23 AM
37 hours without a cigarette  I'm prepared to murder for one, at this point.

You've got to be kidding me.. I doubt you smoked more then I used to, and it's been a few days for me and I am only experiencing medium cravings and stress levels. It's not that hard to quit, it's not going to kill you. Quite the opposite, actually.
Quote[20:21:13] xar: i was just thinking about the time iago came over here and we made this huge bomb and light up the sky for 6 min
[20:21:15] xar: that was funny

leet_muffin

Quote from: Quik on November 05, 2008, 07:59:50 PM
Quote from: rabbit on November 05, 2008, 09:07:23 AM
37 hours without a cigarette  I'm prepared to murder for one, at this point.

You've got to be kidding me.. I doubt you smoked more then I used to, and it's been a few days for me and I am only experiencing medium cravings and stress levels. It's not that hard to quit, it's not going to kill you. Quite the opposite, actually.

I've quit a few times now. I only let myself smoke 3 a day, so... no big deal, never really feel urges.
The douchebag method:
Quote from: Trust on April 19, 2008, 02:58:00 AM
fuck allfo you i dont give a fuck ill fight everyone of you fuck that sbhit fuck you

Warrior

Quote from: Quik on November 05, 2008, 07:59:50 PM
Quote from: rabbit on November 05, 2008, 09:07:23 AM
37 hours without a cigarette  I'm prepared to murder for one, at this point.

You've got to be kidding me.. I doubt you smoked more then I used to, and it's been a few days for me and I am only experiencing medium cravings and stress levels. It's not that hard to quit, it's not going to kill you. Quite the opposite, actually.

We should study you more closely, apparently your experiences are the only experiences which matter. 
One must ask oneself: "do I will trolling to become a universal law?" And then when one realizes "yes, I do will it to be such," one feels completely justified.
-- from Groundwork for the Metaphysics of Trolling

Ender

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Quote from: rabbit on November 05, 2008, 09:07:23 AM
37 hours without a cigarette  I'm prepared to murder for one, at this point.

I'd like to respectfully ask why you started smoking. You must have known that it's addictive and in the long-term can cause lung cancer, gum disease, et cetera. So I was wondering what was your reasoning in starting the habit? Of course, it gave you pleasure, but how did you figure that your first cigarette was worth it?

Once again, I'm asking respectfully. I'm just curious.

EDIT: This question applies to anyone else who's been in the habit, not just rabbit.

truste1

I've smoked countless times and never had any addictive craving or urge to smoke. I guess I'm just lucky, but I rarely smoke when I'm not drinking so that might play in.
Ain't Life Grand?

Newby

I've never had any physical cravings for cigarettes, but when I'm drunk it's this thought in my head of "wow drunk x 2!!!"
- Newby
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[17:32:54] * xar sets mode: +o newby
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[17:33:02] <xar> me and newby rule all

Quote from: Rule on June 30, 2008, 01:13:20 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on June 30, 2008, 10:38:22 AM
I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

Quik

Quote from: Warrior on November 05, 2008, 10:13:58 PM
Quote from: Quik on November 05, 2008, 07:59:50 PM
Quote from: rabbit on November 05, 2008, 09:07:23 AM
37 hours without a cigarette  I'm prepared to murder for one, at this point.

You've got to be kidding me.. I doubt you smoked more then I used to, and it's been a few days for me and I am only experiencing medium cravings and stress levels. It's not that hard to quit, it's not going to kill you. Quite the opposite, actually.

We should study you more closely, apparently your experiences are the only experiences which matter. 

Of course. And why are your hands on a keyboard? They should be on the ground, while you're bowing to me. What's going on?

I was just trying to give my opinion on the "addiction". Yeah, it really is an addiction. But it's not crack.. the majority of people can get over it relatively easily. If you're dying that much, get some patches or gum or something.

Ender.. it's probably too complicated for you to understand if you've grown up hating it, haven't tried it, etc.

Sometimes, it's part of a culture. Often times it's encouraged by friends. Maybe it's something to do.

Most people start smoking with the expectation that they won't be smoking their whole life. That's because it's not that hard to quit, and most people assume that they will quit before it drastically affects their health.

This is only my opinion and what I've seen, though. Some people, like Warrior, will listen to it and take it to heart. Others won't care. So take it with a grain of salt. Or something.
Quote[20:21:13] xar: i was just thinking about the time iago came over here and we made this huge bomb and light up the sky for 6 min
[20:21:15] xar: that was funny

Kaleeko

Quote from: iago on November 05, 2008, 03:22:44 PM
Quote from: Kaleeko on November 05, 2008, 02:23:12 PM
Well, apparently assisted suicide is now legal in Washington (having only been previously legal in Oregon). So... You can SORT of kill people. They just have to want to die. XD
So are Emos full game?

(I kid)


I wish. :P

Warrior

Quote from: Quik on November 05, 2008, 10:58:18 PM
Quote from: Warrior on November 05, 2008, 10:13:58 PM
Quote from: Quik on November 05, 2008, 07:59:50 PM
Quote from: rabbit on November 05, 2008, 09:07:23 AM
37 hours without a cigarette  I'm prepared to murder for one, at this point.

You've got to be kidding me.. I doubt you smoked more then I used to, and it's been a few days for me and I am only experiencing medium cravings and stress levels. It's not that hard to quit, it's not going to kill you. Quite the opposite, actually.

We should study you more closely, apparently your experiences are the only experiences which matter. 

Of course. And why are your hands on a keyboard? They should be on the ground, while you're bowing to me. What's going on?

I was just trying to give my opinion on the "addiction". Yeah, it really is an addiction. But it's not crack.. the majority of people can get over it relatively easily. If you're dying that much, get some patches or gum or something.

Ender.. it's probably too complicated for you to understand if you've grown up hating it, haven't tried it, etc.

Sometimes, it's part of a culture. Often times it's encouraged by friends. Maybe it's something to do.

Most people start smoking with the expectation that they won't be smoking their whole life. That's because it's not that hard to quit, and most people assume that they will quit before it drastically affects their health.

This is only my opinion and what I've seen, though. Some people, like Warrior, will listen to it and take it to heart. Others won't care. So take it with a grain of salt. Or something.

My point was that there are people with wildly different experiences than the one you describe. It is foolish to state that because you've gone through something a certain way, that others go through it the same way.

This is not something you can dispute.
One must ask oneself: "do I will trolling to become a universal law?" And then when one realizes "yes, I do will it to be such," one feels completely justified.
-- from Groundwork for the Metaphysics of Trolling

Ender

Quik, I am open-minded. (Of course, that doesn't change the fact that long-term smoking does cause lung cancer.)

I think I see what you're saying. It definitely is a part of culture, albeit a bad part of culture. For instance, sometimes it's nice to hang out on the front steps on a cool night without really doing much of anything. But if you were to do this, in a completely idle manner, (i.e. doing nothing but sitting on the steps like Confucius), you would be viewed as somewhat weird -- you'd be hard to comprehend. Some people may judge you as being depressed. Others may view you as creepy. So our culture found a fix to this: if you're seen outside at 10PM smoking a cigarette, people wouldn't think twice about it. They may think you have an unhealthy habit, but they wouldn't puzzle about you and say things like you're depressed, creepy, awkward, out-of-place -- it would be familiar to them. It's similar for parties, too.

Of course, that does not justify it. You can just part with culture without picking up an unhealthy habit. More specifically, I object to smoking because:

[1] It's not worth the risk of addiction. (Even though I've never smoked before, I think I can say with some certainty that you downplay the effect of nicotine addiction. After all, it is a matter of neuroscience, which is probably more reliable than a single person's judgment.)
[2] Even if you do it for a few years and then quit, the process of quitting can interfere with your life in a very destructive way.
[3] I don't like the principle of giving in to the destructive aspects of society in order to conform. I think that most people who smoke probably wouldn't call it 'conforming', out of their own self-love, but that's really what I see it as. You are risking your health in order to acquire some vain social advantages. (The goal of acquiring transient pleasure is different -- I wouldn't call it conformity -- but it is just as nonsensical, because of [1] and [2].)

Sorry that this post is long-winded. I'm just interested in the reasons why people smoke.