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A [blackhat] hackers manifesto.

Started by Krazed, August 16, 2005, 10:17:02 PM

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c0n

Quote from: iago on August 17, 2005, 09:02:43 AM
Haha, whoever wrote that has no idea what it's like to work in this kind of job!

A lot of security people are consultants.  What's that mean? An expense account, flying all over the country at somebody else's expense, food and drink covered, and making $100+/hour on top of that!  Who wouldn't want that kind of life? 

Even in my job, I don't drag myself to work 9-5.  I show up between 8 and 9 (my choice), eat breakfast at my desk, spend the next hour or so reading forums/news/talking to co-workers, spend the day mostly working on fun projects and spend a lot of time in informal meetings, then go home just a little richer.  It's a good life, I tell you.



hackers don't do that. hackers hack.

Krazed: nope.

Krazed

Quote from: c0n on August 17, 2005, 09:48:02 AM
Quote from: iago on August 17, 2005, 09:02:43 AM
Haha, whoever wrote that has no idea what it's like to work in this kind of job!

A lot of security people are consultants.  What's that mean? An expense account, flying all over the country at somebody else's expense, food and drink covered, and making $100+/hour on top of that!  Who wouldn't want that kind of life? 

Even in my job, I don't drag myself to work 9-5.  I show up between 8 and 9 (my choice), eat breakfast at my desk, spend the next hour or so reading forums/news/talking to co-workers, spend the day mostly working on fun projects and spend a lot of time in informal meetings, then go home just a little richer.  It's a good life, I tell you.



hackers don't do that. hackers hack.

Krazed: nope.

Do you ever plan on getting one?
It is good to be good, but it is better to be lucky.

iago

Quote from: c0n on August 17, 2005, 09:48:02 AM
Quote from: iago on August 17, 2005, 09:02:43 AM
Haha, whoever wrote that has no idea what it's like to work in this kind of job!

A lot of security people are consultants.  What's that mean? An expense account, flying all over the country at somebody else's expense, food and drink covered, and making $100+/hour on top of that!  Who wouldn't want that kind of life? 

Even in my job, I don't drag myself to work 9-5.  I show up between 8 and 9 (my choice), eat breakfast at my desk, spend the next hour or so reading forums/news/talking to co-workers, spend the day mostly working on fun projects and spend a lot of time in informal meetings, then go home just a little richer.  It's a good life, I tell you.



hackers don't do that. hackers hack.

Krazed: nope.

Well, sucks to be them

Krazed

c0n, you and your revoloution is bullshit. It's run by people with jobs. Guess what they do, they help people. As does almost every other job in this world. Let me get this, a whitehat's just want money, and sometimes fame? Doesn't every person in this world want money? It's a normal thing for every human to do, not just whitehats.
It is good to be good, but it is better to be lucky.

c0n

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Quote from: Krazed on August 17, 2005, 10:44:29 AM
c0n, you and your revoloution is bullshit. It's run by people with jobs. Guess what they do, they help people. As does almost every other job in this world. Let me get this, a whitehat's just want money, and sometimes fame? Doesn't every person in this world want money? It's a normal thing for every human to do, not just whitehats.

I wrote a little rap to express my feelings on whitehats.
--

whitehats 'hack' for money and fame,
not for the love of the game.
They are traitors, so they got some haters.
If you claim to be a hacker,
then be ready to hack to be a hacker,
and not a whitehat cracker. Hackin's bout breaking into systems,
keeping shit on the low down,
not receiving a whitehat crown.
Hackin' ain't bout helpin',
nor is it about fame,
it's just that simple and plain.
If you see whitehat scum,
show him pr0j3kt m4yh3m,
he'll run to his mum.
Sooner or later,
he'll get fucked in his bum.
Just understand,
I'm just here to reprimand.
The blackhats need to take back the scene,
rm the whitehats,
it's not that mean.
Whitehats are full of shit,
so sooner or later they gonna get hit,
have a goddamn fit.
Ain't no such thing as ethical hackin', car hijackin', or any of the that.
Blackhats won't stand by holding their clutch.
If you think hackin's ethical, well let me remind you,
there ain't anything of the such.

That is my small rap on how whitehats suck.
Get a grip you traitors, you ain't buck.

Screenor

Quote from: c0n on August 18, 2005, 12:04:29 AM
Quote from: Krazed on August 17, 2005, 10:44:29 AM
c0n, you and your revoloution is bullshit. It's run by people with jobs. Guess what they do, they help people. As does almost every other job in this world. Let me get this, a whitehat's just want money, and sometimes fame? Doesn't every person in this world want money? It's a normal thing for every human to do, not just whitehats.

I wrote a little rap to express my feelings on whitehats.
--

whitehats 'hack' for money and fame,
not for the love of the game.
They are traitors, so they got some haters.
If you claim to be a hacker,
then be ready to hack to be a hacker,
and not a whitehat cracker. Hackin's bout breaking into systems,
keeping shit on the low down,
not receiving a whitehat crown.
Hackin' ain't bout helpin',
nor is it about fame,
it's just that simple and plain.
If you see whitehat scum,
show him pr0j3kt m4yh3m,
he'll run to his mum.
Sooner or later,
he'll get fucked in his bum.
Just understand,
I'm just here to reprimand.
The blackhats need to take back the scene,
rm the whitehats,
it's not that mean.
Whitehats are full of shit,
so sooner or later they gonna get hit,
have a goddamn fit.
Ain't no such thing as ethical hackin', car hijackin', or any of the that.
Blackhats won't stand by holding their clutch.
If you think hackin's ethical, well let me remind you,
there ain't anything of the such.

That is my small rap on how whitehats suck.
Get a grip you traitors, you ain't buck.

...Was your mother killed by a whitehat or something?

c0n

Quote from: Scr33n0r on August 18, 2005, 12:28:10 AM
Quote from: c0n on August 18, 2005, 12:04:29 AM
Quote from: Krazed on August 17, 2005, 10:44:29 AM
c0n, you and your revoloution is bullshit. It's run by people with jobs. Guess what they do, they help people. As does almost every other job in this world. Let me get this, a whitehat's just want money, and sometimes fame? Doesn't every person in this world want money? It's a normal thing for every human to do, not just whitehats.

I wrote a little rap to express my feelings on whitehats.
--

whitehats 'hack' for money and fame,
not for the love of the game.
They are traitors, so they got some haters.
If you claim to be a hacker,
then be ready to hack to be a hacker,
and not a whitehat cracker. Hackin's bout breaking into systems,
keeping shit on the low down,
not receiving a whitehat crown.
Hackin' ain't bout helpin',
nor is it about fame,
it's just that simple and plain.
If you see whitehat scum,
show him pr0j3kt m4yh3m,
he'll run to his mum.
Sooner or later,
he'll get fucked in his bum.
Just understand,
I'm just here to reprimand.
The blackhats need to take back the scene,
rm the whitehats,
it's not that mean.
Whitehats are full of shit,
so sooner or later they gonna get hit,
have a goddamn fit.
Ain't no such thing as ethical hackin', car hijackin', or any of the that.
Blackhats won't stand by holding their clutch.
If you think hackin's ethical, well let me remind you,
there ain't anything of the such.

That is my small rap on how whitehats suck.
Get a grip you traitors, you ain't buck.

...Was your mother killed by a whitehat or something?

nope. whitehats just support an unrighteous cause.

Screenor

Quote from: pr0jeKt m4yh3m on August 18, 2005, 12:41:28 AM
Quote from: Scr33n0r on August 18, 2005, 12:28:10 AM
Quote from: c0n on August 18, 2005, 12:04:29 AM
Quote from: Krazed on August 17, 2005, 10:44:29 AM
c0n, you and your revoloution is bullshit. It's run by people with jobs. Guess what they do, they help people. As does almost every other job in this world. Let me get this, a whitehat's just want money, and sometimes fame? Doesn't every person in this world want money? It's a normal thing for every human to do, not just whitehats.

I wrote a little rap to express my feelings on whitehats.
--

whitehats 'hack' for money and fame,
not for the love of the game.
They are traitors, so they got some haters.
If you claim to be a hacker,
then be ready to hack to be a hacker,
and not a whitehat cracker. Hackin's bout breaking into systems,
keeping shit on the low down,
not receiving a whitehat crown.
Hackin' ain't bout helpin',
nor is it about fame,
it's just that simple and plain.
If you see whitehat scum,
show him pr0j3kt m4yh3m,
he'll run to his mum.
Sooner or later,
he'll get fucked in his bum.
Just understand,
I'm just here to reprimand.
The blackhats need to take back the scene,
rm the whitehats,
it's not that mean.
Whitehats are full of shit,
so sooner or later they gonna get hit,
have a goddamn fit.
Ain't no such thing as ethical hackin', car hijackin', or any of the that.
Blackhats won't stand by holding their clutch.
If you think hackin's ethical, well let me remind you,
there ain't anything of the such.

That is my small rap on how whitehats suck.
Get a grip you traitors, you ain't buck.

...Was your mother killed by a whitehat or something?

nope. whitehats just support an unrighteous cause.
Ah, this sounds oddly similar to Republicans and Democrats.

You are now deemed Blacky, and iago, you're Mr. WhiteyTighteys.

In my honest opinion (not trying to side) but to have a job like that you'd have to have some kind of love for the thing. No one I know who's into computers that much just does it for the money.

Also, does it really hurt that much to try to make a little money doing the things you love in life?

c0n

Quote from: Scr33n0r on August 18, 2005, 03:18:59 AM
Quote from: pr0jeKt m4yh3m on August 18, 2005, 12:41:28 AM
Quote from: Scr33n0r on August 18, 2005, 12:28:10 AM
Quote from: c0n on August 18, 2005, 12:04:29 AM
Quote from: Krazed on August 17, 2005, 10:44:29 AM
c0n, you and your revoloution is bullshit. It's run by people with jobs. Guess what they do, they help people. As does almost every other job in this world. Let me get this, a whitehat's just want money, and sometimes fame? Doesn't every person in this world want money? It's a normal thing for every human to do, not just whitehats.

I wrote a little rap to express my feelings on whitehats.
--

whitehats 'hack' for money and fame,
not for the love of the game.
They are traitors, so they got some haters.
If you claim to be a hacker,
then be ready to hack to be a hacker,
and not a whitehat cracker. Hackin's bout breaking into systems,
keeping shit on the low down,
not receiving a whitehat crown.
Hackin' ain't bout helpin',
nor is it about fame,
it's just that simple and plain.
If you see whitehat scum,
show him pr0j3kt m4yh3m,
he'll run to his mum.
Sooner or later,
he'll get fucked in his bum.
Just understand,
I'm just here to reprimand.
The blackhats need to take back the scene,
rm the whitehats,
it's not that mean.
Whitehats are full of shit,
so sooner or later they gonna get hit,
have a goddamn fit.
Ain't no such thing as ethical hackin', car hijackin', or any of the that.
Blackhats won't stand by holding their clutch.
If you think hackin's ethical, well let me remind you,
there ain't anything of the such.

That is my small rap on how whitehats suck.
Get a grip you traitors, you ain't buck.

...Was your mother killed by a whitehat or something?

nope. whitehats just support an unrighteous cause.
Ah, this sounds oddly similar to Republicans and Democrats.

You are now deemed Blacky, and iago, you're Mr. WhiteyTighteys.

In my honest opinion (not trying to side) but to have a job like that you'd have to have some kind of love for the thing. No one I know who's into computers that much just does it for the money.

Also, does it really hurt that much to try to make a little money doing the things you love in life?

No, but if you weren't so ignorant about what happens, then maybe you'd understand, kid.

Screenor

Wow, I'm trying to help the conversation along and get a better understanding of this whole situation and you're just starting flame wars, nock it off with the rude remarks.

c0n

Quote from: Scr33n0r on August 18, 2005, 04:16:22 AM
Wow, I'm trying to help the conversation along and get a better understanding of this whole situation and you're just starting flame wars, nock it off with the rude remarks.

ok, troll.

Screenor

Quote from: c0n on August 26, 2005, 08:49:02 AM
Quote from: Scr33n0r on August 18, 2005, 04:16:22 AM
Wow, I'm trying to help the conversation along and get a better understanding of this whole situation and you're just starting flame wars, nock it off with the rude remarks.

ok, troll.
ok, myg0t.