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To iago:
« on: January 02, 2005, 06:19:03 pm »
Hey I want to get started programming and have had C++ and Java suggested as languages to start with.  I've decided to learn Java and heard you are good at with it.  Could you give me a few resources to get me started?  I found the eBook Thinking In Java 2nd Edition.  Also if this is not a good language to learn as your first please go ahead and tell me.  Thanks :).

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Re: To iago:
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2005, 07:25:05 pm »
You're going to start with Java or C++?! I'd start with Visual BASIC, it's most like English and easiest to start with. C++ is by far the hardest IMO, and Java is confusing. iago will tell you to just start with Java since he's a sellout like that, but whatever :P
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Re: To iago:
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2005, 07:32:02 pm »
I was thinking about Visual Basic but then heard it gives you bad programming habits, and was suggested C++ or Java.

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Re: To iago:
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2005, 08:58:56 pm »
If you're willing to do work, then learn Java or C first.  I personally don't like C++, but that's another story.

I learned Java at school, and at work, so I don't know what to recommend in terms of books.  I have my textbook, but it isn't good or bad.  Mythix just purchased a couple Java books, I'll point him this way, maybe he'd know more than me.

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Re: To iago:
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2005, 09:16:45 pm »
Now that my permissions set I can give you a little bit of support.


Through my time of diving into different OOP languages (C++, PERL, PHP) now java. I went on ebay and bought a couple of good java books (which retailed at around 70$ a piece) for under 10$ with shipping.


Introduction to java an OOP langauge is what i'm currently reading, it's a good read, doesn't make it feel like you're reading hebrew. I would also recommend googling some stuff, the internet is a fantastic place to find awesome information and tutorials.
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Re: To iago:
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2005, 09:38:49 pm »
Aight thanks hopefully I won't have much trouble understanding this stuff.  I'm very cautious purchasing books cause I don't wanna end up paying a chunk of money for something I can't even understand because it claims to be for beginners.

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Re: To iago:
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2005, 09:39:08 pm »
doesn't make it feel like you're reading hebrew.

Sometimes Hebrew's easier to read then Java ;)
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Re: To iago:
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2005, 02:23:04 am »
I was thinking about Visual Basic but then heard it gives you bad programming habits, and was suggested C++ or Java.

Haha, Visual Basic 4 lyfe!

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Re: To iago:
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2005, 04:40:20 pm »
WiReS, I should kill you.  VB sucks.

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Re: To iago:
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2005, 04:55:50 pm »
WiReS, I should kill you.  VB sucks.

Quit using it then!

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Re: To iago:
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2005, 05:14:20 pm »
I'm trying, but I still can't get sockets working in C++, so if I wish to continue making web-based programs, I must use VB6.

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Re: To iago:
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2005, 06:40:35 pm »
I'd really like to see more bot like applications in C and C++. Visual Basic seems slower to me than the others. Of course I don't know C or C++ so it doesn't matter really. :(

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Re: To iago:
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2005, 07:24:42 pm »
I'm trying, but I still can't get sockets working in C++, so if I wish to continue making web-based programs, I must use VB6.
Sockets are easy. I can write 'em decently in x86 assembly, too!
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[17:33:02] <xar> me and newby rule all

I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

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Re: To iago:
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2005, 05:19:02 pm »
Yeah, well I get compilation errors in winsock2.h, so go die!

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--------------------Configuration: winsock2hsucksballs - Win32 Debug--------------------
Compiling...
srcMain.cpp
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(99) : error C2011: 'fd_set' : 'struct' type redefinition
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(134) : warning C4005: 'FD_SET' : macro redefinition
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(83) : see previous definition of 'FD_SET'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(143) : error C2011: 'timeval' : 'struct' type redefinition
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(199) : error C2011: 'hostent' : 'struct' type redefinition
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(212) : error C2011: 'netent' : 'struct' type redefinition
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(219) : error C2011: 'servent' : 'struct' type redefinition
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(226) : error C2011: 'protoent' : 'struct' type redefinition
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(310) : error C2011: 'in_addr' : 'struct' type redefinition
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(368) : error C2011: 'sockaddr_in' : 'struct' type redefinition
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(378) : error C2011: 'WSAData' : 'struct' type redefinition
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(430) : warning C4005: 'SO_DONTLINGER' : macro redefinition
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(391) : see previous definition of 'SO_DONTLINGER'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(483) : warning C4005: 'AF_IPX' : macro redefinition
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(449) : see previous definition of 'AF_IPX'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(506) : warning C4005: 'AF_MAX' : macro redefinition
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(468) : see previous definition of 'AF_MAX'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(512) : error C2011: 'sockaddr' : 'struct' type redefinition
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(521) : error C2011: 'sockproto' : 'struct' type redefinition
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(560) : error C2011: 'linger' : 'struct' type redefinition
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(573) : warning C4005: 'SOMAXCONN' : macro redefinition
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(533) : see previous definition of 'SOMAXCONN'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(598) : warning C4005: 'FD_READ' : macro redefinition
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(551) : see previous definition of 'FD_READ'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(601) : warning C4005: 'FD_WRITE' : macro redefinition
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(552) : see previous definition of 'FD_WRITE'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(604) : warning C4005: 'FD_OOB' : macro redefinition
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(553) : see previous definition of 'FD_OOB'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(607) : warning C4005: 'FD_ACCEPT' : macro redefinition
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(554) : see previous definition of 'FD_ACCEPT'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(610) : warning C4005: 'FD_CONNECT' : macro redefinition
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(555) : see previous definition of 'FD_CONNECT'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(613) : warning C4005: 'FD_CLOSE' : macro redefinition
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(556) : see previous definition of 'FD_CLOSE'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(1427) : error C2375: 'accept' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(707) : see declaration of 'accept'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(1448) : error C2375: 'bind' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(710) : see declaration of 'bind'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(1467) : error C2375: 'closesocket' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(712) : see declaration of 'closesocket'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(1486) : error C2375: 'connect' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(714) : see declaration of 'connect'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(1507) : error C2375: 'ioctlsocket' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(716) : see declaration of 'ioctlsocket'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(1528) : error C2375: 'getpeername' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(718) : see declaration of 'getpeername'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(1549) : error C2375: 'getsockname' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(721) : see declaration of 'getsockname'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(1572) : error C2375: 'getsockopt' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(724) : see declaration of 'getsockopt'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(1593) : error C2375: 'htonl' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(727) : see declaration of 'htonl'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(1610) : error C2375: 'htons' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(729) : see declaration of 'htons'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(1627) : error C2375: 'inet_addr' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(731) : see declaration of 'inet_addr'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(1644) : error C2375: 'inet_ntoa' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(733) : see declaration of 'inet_ntoa'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(1662) : error C2375: 'listen' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(735) : see declaration of 'listen'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(1680) : error C2375: 'ntohl' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(737) : see declaration of 'ntohl'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(1697) : error C2375: 'ntohs' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(739) : see declaration of 'ntohs'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(1717) : error C2375: 'recv' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(741) : see declaration of 'recv'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(1742) : error C2375: 'recvfrom' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(743) : see declaration of 'recvfrom'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(1768) : error C2375: 'select' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(746) : see declaration of 'select'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(1792) : error C2375: 'send' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(749) : see declaration of 'send'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(1817) : error C2375: 'sendto' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(751) : see declaration of 'sendto'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(1843) : error C2375: 'setsockopt' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(754) : see declaration of 'setsockopt'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(1865) : error C2375: 'shutdown' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(757) : see declaration of 'shutdown'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(1885) : error C2375: 'socket' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(759) : see declaration of 'socket'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(1908) : error C2375: 'gethostbyaddr' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(763) : see declaration of 'gethostbyaddr'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(1927) : error C2375: 'gethostbyname' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(766) : see declaration of 'gethostbyname'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(1945) : error C2375: 'gethostname' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(768) : see declaration of 'gethostname'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(1964) : error C2375: 'getservbyport' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(770) : see declaration of 'getservbyport'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(1983) : error C2375: 'getservbyname' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(772) : see declaration of 'getservbyname'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(2001) : error C2375: 'getprotobynumber' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(775) : see declaration of 'getprotobynumber'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(2018) : error C2375: 'getprotobyname' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(777) : see declaration of 'getprotobyname'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(2038) : error C2375: 'WSAStartup' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(781) : see declaration of 'WSAStartup'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(2056) : error C2375: 'WSACleanup' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(783) : see declaration of 'WSACleanup'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(2073) : error C2375: 'WSASetLastError' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(785) : see declaration of 'WSASetLastError'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(2090) : error C2375: 'WSAGetLastError' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(787) : see declaration of 'WSAGetLastError'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(2107) : error C2375: 'WSAIsBlocking' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(789) : see declaration of 'WSAIsBlocking'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(2124) : error C2375: 'WSAUnhookBlockingHook' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(791) : see declaration of 'WSAUnhookBlockingHook'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(2141) : error C2375: 'WSASetBlockingHook' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(793) : see declaration of 'WSASetBlockingHook'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(2158) : error C2375: 'WSACancelBlockingCall' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(795) : see declaration of 'WSACancelBlockingCall'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(2180) : error C2375: 'WSAAsyncGetServByName' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(797) : see declaration of 'WSAAsyncGetServByName'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(2207) : error C2375: 'WSAAsyncGetServByPort' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(802) : see declaration of 'WSAAsyncGetServByPort'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(2233) : error C2375: 'WSAAsyncGetProtoByName' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(806) : see declaration of 'WSAAsyncGetProtoByName'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(2258) : error C2375: 'WSAAsyncGetProtoByNumber' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(810) : see declaration of 'WSAAsyncGetProtoByNumber'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(2283) : error C2375: 'WSAAsyncGetHostByName' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(814) : see declaration of 'WSAAsyncGetHostByName'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(2310) : error C2375: 'WSAAsyncGetHostByAddr' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(818) : see declaration of 'WSAAsyncGetHostByAddr'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(2333) : error C2375: 'WSACancelAsyncRequest' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(822) : see declaration of 'WSACancelAsyncRequest'
d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock2.h(2353) : error C2375: 'WSAAsyncSelect' : redefinition; different linkage
        d:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include\winsock.h(824) : see declaration of 'WSAAsyncSelect'
D:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\MyProjects\rabbitbot2\srcMain.cpp(9) : error C2065: 'socketDescriptor' : undeclared identifier
D:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\MyProjects\rabbitbot2\srcMain.cpp(9) : error C2440: '=' : cannot convert from 'unsigned int (__stdcall *)(int,int,int)' to 'int'
        This conversion requires a reinterpret_cast, a C-style cast or function-style cast
Error executing cl.exe.

winsock2hsucksballs.exe - 60 error(s), 11 warning(s)

Now go die.

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Re: To iago:
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2005, 07:01:13 pm »
LEARN TO PROGRAM IN C/C++ :).
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[17:32:45] * xar sets mode: -oooooooooo algorithm ban chris cipher newby stdio TehUser tnarongi|away vursed warz
[17:32:54] * xar sets mode: +o newby
[17:32:58] <xar> new rule
[17:33:02] <xar> me and newby rule all

I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

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Re: To iago:
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2005, 12:14:15 am »
I already know how, it's just that my winsock2.h disagrees with something I fed it.  Can I have yours?

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Re: To iago:
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2005, 12:30:32 am »
Sure, it came with your Windows. :)
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[17:32:45] * xar sets mode: -oooooooooo algorithm ban chris cipher newby stdio TehUser tnarongi|away vursed warz
[17:32:54] * xar sets mode: +o newby
[17:32:58] <xar> new rule
[17:33:02] <xar> me and newby rule all

I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

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Re: To iago:
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2005, 11:23:41 am »
I've had that problem with winsock2.h as well.  It's poorly programmed, and has to be included in some special order compared to other includes.  I don't remember how, though..

And it doesn't come with Windows, it comes with VS :P

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Re: To iago:
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2005, 03:09:27 pm »
Let's also not forget that my VS isn't the most "legal" form of the package.  I've had trouble with a few other libraries in the past.

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Re: To iago:
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2005, 03:24:16 pm »
I started programming in VB at the beginning of last summer (when school got out) and now I'm considered (by some) to be a god of that language. However, I'm working on learning C++ right now, and its hell to a VB programmer. Why? You always want to use VB syntax.
I'd personally do as Joe suggests

You might be right about that, Joe.


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Re: To iago:
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2005, 03:26:16 pm »
What'd we say about old threads?
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[20:21:13] xar: i was just thinking about the time iago came over here and we made this huge bomb and light up the sky for 6 min
[20:21:15] xar: that was funny

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Re: To iago:
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2005, 03:47:48 pm »
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Sorry sorry sorry! I don't know whats going on! For some reason all the old topics are at the start of the forum!

But seriously, I'm not doing it on purpose!
I'd personally do as Joe suggests

You might be right about that, Joe.


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Re: To iago:
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2005, 04:02:12 pm »
Hes posting something constructive, hop off.
One must ask oneself: "do I will trolling to become a universal law?" And then when one realizes "yes, I do will it to be such," one feels completely justified.
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Re: To iago:
« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2005, 04:24:28 pm »
:)
I'd personally do as Joe suggests

You might be right about that, Joe.


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Re: To iago:
« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2005, 09:21:05 pm »
Hes posting something constructive, hop off.

This is true -- if he has something constructive to post, it's not a problem.  Replying to an old thread with "lol" or something is a little different.

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Re: To iago:
« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2005, 10:03:39 pm »
lol

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Re: To iago:
« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2005, 10:18:31 am »
lol
I'd personally do as Joe suggests

You might be right about that, Joe.