Torture in prisons?

[trust]

bin Laden came out and said they won't stop the attacking based on how we act, for one.

An example I can recall is allowing pornography on the internet. So, while "jihad" is a religious war, and to them this is a religious war, they're also against the customs that we allow (ie. respecting women and etc.) So they're not just picking and choosing Christians to kill.

[iago]

You know what the problem arguing with someone from Canada is? The fact that no one goes to war with Canada, because they have nothing of any need to anyone else

I thought it was pretty clearly stated here that they were fighting because of religion.  And  you said that they were fighting for no reason.  So why does their religion hate America but not hate Canada, as you're implying?

So YOU'RE implying that there can't be more then one probabillity? And by the way: We declared war with them, not the other way around. We did so due to the attacks such as 9/11.

they don't help outside country's (for the most part),

That's crap.  We have peacekeeping troops all over the world, and we've fought in all the major wars.

I looked it up.  We have peacekeepers currently in the following countries/regions:
[NOTE: these numbers are from 2003.  The current ones wouldn't be much different, however]
- Middle East (since 1948)
- Korea (since 1953)
- Cyprus (since 1964)
- Syria (Golan) (since 1974)
- Lebanon (since 1978)
- Sinia (since 1986)
- Balkins (over 4 missions since 1991)
- Iraq/Kuwait (since 1991)
- Western Sahara (since 1991)
- Cambodia (since 1992)
- Georgie (since 1993)
- Liberia (since 1993)
- The Netherlands (since 1993)
- Guatemala (since 1994)
- Haiti (since 1997)
Source: http://www.dfait-maeci.gc.ca/peacekeeping/missions-en.asp

Peacekeeping doesn't support economy, you're not helping other country's, you're keeping yourselves from getting owned.

immigrants don't try and get in their country

We have lots of immigration.  From the year 1995 - 2004, the total number of annual immigrants was:
212,869 226,073 216,038 174,200 189,966 227,465 250,638 229,040 221,355 235,824
That's no small number.  In those years, these are the total numbers of refugees per annum:
27,193 28,097 23,865 22,506 24,357 30,078 27,914 25,109 25,981 32,685
Source: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/pub/facts2004.pdf [warning >1mb]
<edit> And don't forget, Canada's total population is only about 31million (as of 2001 source), so that's a significant percentage. 

Those numbers are pretty much bull, Canada immigration as compared to America is nothing.

if Canada was attacked for some reason, the only one helping you would be America.

Again, that's crap.  Britain would help us for sure.  And don't forget, if the US was attacked, Canada would probably be the only one helping, too. 

No shit? If we were taken out you'd be the obvious secondary target.

IMHO Canadians have no right to put down any other country, because they don't have one mother fuckin thing to back them up if they're insulted.

Well, it's hard to be insulted by ignorant American children who know nothing about Canada.  But hopefully the facts I've posted here will open your eyes a little, although I doubt it. 

Your first paragraph is so grossly misinformed that I'm not going to waste my time reading the rest of your post.  Please don't waste my time until you actually learn a little about my country, ok?

You're forgetting the fact that this (being your clan), IS a majority of American children, correct? The only reason we don't know much about Canada is the fact that it's not important enough to waste time learning about how it was formed by the French and Britans that lost to us in the Revolutionary war. Please don't waste our time untill you learn a little more about our country, ok?

I don't directly dislike you, I do however (along with most people here) dislike the fact that you insult America so easily like it's nothing, it's pitiful and at large, disgraceful.

This is just like the Microsoft discussion we had a while back. Every country has their flaws, America is just the largest, and therefore receives the most bullshit from lesser, more jealous country's.

You're worried about people insulting your country, but you're doing the EXACT same thing to mine?  At least I know about your country.  I am quite familiar with how it works. 

And why don't we count?  Is it because of the reasons that you gave in your last post? No, those were all make belief.  Is it because Americans are self-centered bigots? Perhaps.  Why don't Americans think that it's worth knowing about Canada (or, in fact, any other country)?

Also, in this thread, I don't think I insulted Americans until this and my previous post.  You're the one who brought it up.  I was trying to consider reasons why you were attacked and we weren't. 

[Sidoh]

Why don't Americans think that it's worth knowing about Canada (or, in fact, any other country)?

That's a really, really good question.  The answer is simple, though:  we're ignorent, lazy bastards (on average).

[iago]

Why don't Americans think that it's worth knowing about Canada (or, in fact, any other country)?

That's a really, really good question.  The answer is simple, though:  we're ignorent, lazy bastards (on average).

Haha, I believe I used the word "bigots" but close enough :-)

[Hitmen]

iago for the win.
This country is fucked up and I hope it sees some significant changes within my lifetime. If all else fails, you can always shelter me in canada, right??

[Newby]

iago for the win.
This country is fucked up and I hope it sees some significant changes within my lifetime. If all else fails, you can always shelter me in canada, right??

Sorry. I plan on shackin' it up with iago (or at least visiting him) when I'm 18!

[iago]

iago for the win.
This country is fucked up and I hope it sees some significant changes within my lifetime. If all else fails, you can always shelter me in canada, right??

Sorry. I plan on shackin' it up with iago (or at least visiting him) when I'm 18!

There's room for both of youze! :-P

[Screenor]

iago for the win.
This country is fucked up and I hope it sees some significant changes within my lifetime. If all else fails, you can always shelter me in canada, right??

Sorry. I plan on shackin' it up with iago (or at least visiting him) when I'm 18!

Why 18..? Or do I even want to know the answer to this one?

[Sidoh]

Why 18..? Or do I even want to know the answer to this one?

I don't think you can legally decide to move (at least without the consent of some other organization) if your parents don't agree with it until you're 18+.

[iago]

Why 18..? Or do I even want to know the answer to this one?

I don't think you can legally decide to move (at least without the consent of some other organization) if your parents don't agree with it until you're 18+.

I think he just wants to visit.  It just seems bad, especially from the point of view of parents, if he's under 18...

[Sidoh]

I think he just wants to visit.  It just seems bad, especially from the point of view of parents, if he's under 18...

hehe.  :)

[Newby]

Why 18..? Or do I even want to know the answer to this one?

I don't think you can legally decide to move (at least without the consent of some other organization) if your parents don't agree with it until you're 18+.

I think he just wants to visit.  It just seems bad, especially from the point of view of parents, if he's under 18...

Exactly! I'm going to visit the giant monster known as Ron, and check out how elite Canada is!

[iago]

Why 18..? Or do I even want to know the answer to this one?

I don't think you can legally decide to move (at least without the consent of some other organization) if your parents don't agree with it until you're 18+.

I think he just wants to visit.  It just seems bad, especially from the point of view of parents, if he's under 18...

Exactly! I'm going to visit the giant monster known as Ron, and check out how elite Canada is!

You're going to be sadly disappointed...

Unless you want to pirate music in freedom, then you'll be impressed.

[Blaze]

Its funny how easily americans forget about there losses. War of 1812. Us > You.
We had tons of the northern states, including The White House, which we gave back to you to white wash.

I am so sick of every American saying they've won every war, blah blah blah, they're the best, blah blah blah, it was only them fighting in World war two, blah blah blah.

[Sidoh]

Its funny how easily americans forget about there losses. War of 1812. Us > You.
We had tons of the northern states, including The White House, which we gave back to you to white wash.

I am so sick of every American saying they've won every war, blah blah blah, they're the best, blah blah blah, it was only them fighting in World war two, blah blah blah.

It's too bad that's a horrible stereotype, Blaze.  :P

Most of my friends talk with our foreign exchange student about how much America sucks for those types of thngs.