Lets try again.

[Joe]

No, a little after.

Whoever voted no or abstained, I'd apreciate it if you contacted me.

[Sidoh]

No, a little after.

Whoever voted no or abstained, I'd apreciate it if you contacted me.

Personally, Joe, I think that's a pretty stupid request.  I think they only way you're going to regain members' respect is submissively, through your "global" actions, not by your personal persuasion.

[iago]

No, a little after.

Whoever voted no or abstained, I'd apreciate it if you contacted me.

Personally, Joe, I think that's a pretty stupid request.  I think they only way you're going to regain members' respect is submissively, through your "global" actions, not by your personal persuasion.

Unless there are certain members (I can name one, but won't) who voted no because he never talks to Joe.  I think Joe's response here might have an effect on him (or her!)

[MyndFyre]

No, a little after.

Whoever voted no or abstained, I'd apreciate it if you contacted me.

Personally, Joe, I think that's a pretty stupid request.  I think they only way you're going to regain members' respect is submissively, through your "global" actions, not by your personal persuasion.

Unless there are certain members (I can name one, but won't) who voted no because he never talks to Joe.  I think Joe's response here might have an effect on him (or her!)

We don't have any women in the clan because Newby keeps asking them to sex him up whenever they even think about LOOKING at our website.

[deadly7]

We have a woman, you dolt. iago! (check profile)

@Joe: I abstained. gg~

[Sidoh]

We have a woman, you dolt. iago! (check profile)

@Joe: I abstained. gg~

She may not be a member of x86, but Kaleeko's female. :P

[Newby]

x86] link=topic=4003.msg44901#msg44901 date=1134541569]
We don't have any women in the clan because Newby keeps asking them to sex him up whenever they even think about LOOKING at our website.

Next time I fly to Arizona I'm burning your house down and/or shooting your family. >:( >:D

[Sidoh]

Next time I fly to Arizona I'm burning your house down and/or shooting your family. >:( >:D

You're such a calm child! :D

[Joe]

Well, as you can see, I really want to join x86. As iago knows, I was anxious to hear the results of the vote, too. I'm kinda disapointed in myself that I couldn't get 75% of the clan to vote yes, but the 9 abstains left me very little margin of error.

I didn't want to persuade them, but to ask them why they voted the way that they did, and perhaps try to work on that aspect of my character.

[Newby]

9 abstains? Who the hell told you your vote results?

[iago]

I believe Newby told you the results, you must have gotten the order mixed up:
9 yes - 5 no - 4 abstain

I'm sure if you give it time, you'll have a chance.  It really did come down to the last couple people :)

[MyndFyre]

I believe Newby told you the results, you must have gotten the order mixed up:
9 yes - 5 no - 4 abstain

I'm sure if you give it time, you'll have a chance.  It really did come down to the last couple people :)

Still, 4 abstains leaves little margin for error.  And actually, since there are 20 members and 2 didn't vote, that's actually 6 abstains.

25% of 14 is 3.5; only 4 no's would have taken Joe out of the running at that rate of abstention.  Had everybody voted, it would have taken 6 no's.  (25% of 20 is 5, but to get in you only need 75% of the vote, so it would have taken one more no for complete elimination).

[iago]

x86] link=topic=4003.msg45277#msg45277 date=1134686877]

I believe Newby told you the results, you must have gotten the order mixed up:
9 yes - 5 no - 4 abstain

I'm sure if you give it time, you'll have a chance.  It really did come down to the last couple people :)

Still, 4 abstains leaves little margin for error.  And actually, since there are 20 members and 2 didn't vote, that's actually 6 abstains.

25% of 14 is 3.5; only 4 no's would have taken Joe out of the running at that rate of abstention.  Had everybody voted, it would have taken 6 no's.  (25% of 20 is 5, but to get in you only need 75% of the vote, so it would have taken one more no for complete elimination).

All of which makes perfect sense. 

If I wanted it to be easier to join, I would have made it 66%, like vL.  Or, I wouldn't have allowed abstains, and not ended the vote until there are enough yes's or no's. 

But the way we're doing it now work perfectly ine. 

[MyndFyre]

All of which makes perfect sense. 

If I wanted it to be easier to join, I would have made it 66%, like vL.  Or, I wouldn't have allowed abstains, and not ended the vote until there are enough yes's or no's. 

But the way we're doing it now work perfectly ine. 

I don't think I disagreed with you....

[iago]

x86] link=topic=4003.msg45387#msg45387 date=1134700602]

All of which makes perfect sense. 

If I wanted it to be easier to join, I would have made it 66%, like vL.  Or, I wouldn't have allowed abstains, and not ended the vote until there are enough yes's or no's. 

But the way we're doing it now work perfectly ine. 

I don't think I disagreed with you....

Ah, it sounded like there was some subtext regarding abstains being an issue, since we privately discussed it recently :)

I guess it was an explanation, not a complaint. 

Complaint (against you) withdrawn.