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Started by iago, February 24, 2006, 06:28:38 PM

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iago

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The Supreme Court ruled unanimously Tuesday that a small congregation in New Mexico may use hallucinogenic tea as part of a four-hour ritual intended to connect with God.

Justices, in their first religious freedom decision under Chief Justice John Roberts, moved decisively to keep the government out of a church's religious practice. Federal drug agents should have been barred from confiscating the hoasca tea of the Brazil-based church, Roberts wrote in the decision.

The tea, which contains an illegal drug known as DMT, is considered sacred to members of O Centro Espirita Beneficiente Uniao do Vegetal, which has a blend of Christian beliefs and South American traditions. Members believe they can understand God only by drinking the tea, which is consumed twice a month at four-hour ceremonies.

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Personally, my religion practices human sacrifice to contact God.  So everybody watch out!!



deadly7

ROFFFLEEE.  I wonder how popular that religion is going to become in the next few weeks.
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MyndFyre

Quote from: iago on February 24, 2006, 06:28:38 PM
Personally, my religion practices human sacrifice to contact God.  So everybody watch out!!

*slight* difference between doing something that could affect only you and one that necessarily involves harming others.
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iago

Quote from: MyndFyrex86] link=topic=4962.msg57044#msg57044 date=1140824046]
Quote from: iago on February 24, 2006, 06:28:38 PM
Personally, my religion practices human sacrifice to contact God.  So everybody watch out!!

*slight* difference between doing something that could affect only you and one that necessarily involves harming others.

Very slight indeed. 

After all, they're both illegal, and they're both accepted religious practices at certain places (in certain times). 

GameSnake

The Native American church uses peyote is simmiliar pratices, this doesn't really surprise me.

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Quote from: CrAz3D on June 30, 2008, 10:38:22 AM
I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

GameSnake

#6
The thing I like to do since it's perfectly legal is buy about 3 packets of Morning Glory seeds. I grind them up finely and boil them into a tea. It's very good tea, but the psycoactive effects are better: MG contains Lysergic Acid Amides which are simmiliar to Lysergic Acid Diathlymine (LSD). The effects are euphoria, and clearness of mind. I enjoy it much.

CrAz3D

Quote from: GameSnake on February 24, 2006, 07:35:50 PM
The thing I like to do since it's perfectly legal is buy about 3 packets of Morning Glory seeds. I grind them up finely and boil them into a tea. It's very good tea, but the psycoactive effects are better: MG contains Lysergic Acid Amides which are simmiliar to Lysergic Acid Diathlymine (LSD). The effects are euphoria, and clearness of mind. I enjoy it much.
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Joe

Quote from: GameSnake on February 24, 2006, 07:35:50 PM
The thing I like to do since it's perfectly legal is buy about 3 packets of Morning Glory seeds. I grind them up finely and boil them into a tea. It's very good tea, but the psycoactive effects are better: MG contains Lysergic Acid Amides which are simmiliar to Lysergic Acid Diathlymine (LSD). The effects are euphoria, and clearness of mind. I enjoy it much.

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LOL.
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You might be right about that, Joe.


GameSnake

#9
Heh, thats my little niche around here, your post is kinda correct, I am an alchemist of sorts. My friends really enjoy my Morning Glory coffee/tea I can brew up. You should try it sometime, perfectly legal way to, umm.. connect with nature (trip).

deadly7

Quote from: GameSnake on February 24, 2006, 10:10:33 PM
Heh, thats my little niche around here, your post is kinda correct, I am an alchemist of sorts. My friends really enjoy my Morning Glory coffee/tea I can brew up. You should try it sometime, perfectly legal way to, umm.. connect with nature (trip).
Which drugs do you lace it with?
[17:42:21.609] <Ergot> Kutsuju you're girlfrieds pussy must be a 403 error for you
[17:42:25.585] <Ergot> FORBIDDEN

on IRC playing T&T++
<iago> He is unarmed
<Hitmen> he has no arms?!

on AIM with a drunk mythix:
(00:50:05) Mythix: Deadly
(00:50:11) Mythix: I'm going to fuck that red dot out of your head.
(00:50:15) Mythix: with my nine

Warrior

You're generally allowed flexibility when practicing religion (moreso than the law may allow in some cases) as long as it doesn't hurt anyone (Human Sacrafices)
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iago

Quote from: Warriorx86] link=topic=4962.msg57126#msg57126 date=1140844943]
You're generally allowed flexibility when practicing religion (moreso than the law may allow in some cases) as long as it doesn't hurt anyone (Human Sacrafices)

Fair enough. 

My new religion believes that in order to be closer to god, we have to counterfeit money as close to the original as possible. It all stemmed from the "in god we trust" motto found inscribed on all US currency.

If money is the physical manifestation of the Spirit, then we should mass produce as much  of it as we can. This religion was also started as a favor to Jesus, who apparently spends most of his time answering prayers for more of the stuff.

[legal note: I didn't write that]

Sidoh

Quote from: iago on February 25, 2006, 03:23:12 AM
Quote from: Warriorx86] link=topic=4962.msg57126#msg57126 date=1140844943]
You're generally allowed flexibility when practicing religion (moreso than the law may allow in some cases) as long as it doesn't hurt anyone (Human Sacrafices)

Fair enough. 

My new religion believes that in order to be closer to god, we have to counterfeit money as close to the original as possible. It all stemmed from the "in god we trust" motto found inscribed on all US currency.

If money is the physical manifestation of the Spirit, then we should mass produce as much  of it as we can. This religion was also started as a favor to Jesus, who apparently spends most of his time answering prayers for more of the stuff.

[legal note: I didn't write that]


HAHAHAHAH.

Warrior

Quote from: iago on February 25, 2006, 03:23:12 AM
Quote from: Warriorx86] link=topic=4962.msg57126#msg57126 date=1140844943]
You're generally allowed flexibility when practicing religion (moreso than the law may allow in some cases) as long as it doesn't hurt anyone (Human Sacrafices)

Fair enough. 

My new religion believes that in order to be closer to god, we have to counterfeit money as close to the original as possible. It all stemmed from the "in god we trust" motto found inscribed on all US currency.

If money is the physical manifestation of the Spirit, then we should mass produce as much  of it as we can. This religion was also started as a favor to Jesus, who apparently spends most of his time answering prayers for more of the stuff.

[legal note: I didn't write that]


That would hurt people..you use the money and you're cheating the people you use it on out of money.
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