Why Windows Vista won't suck.

[Warrior]

"There's a lot of confusion about Windows Vista these days. Many online discussion forums have a great number of users who express no desire to upgrade to Vista. Sure, we've all seen the screenshots and maybe a video or two of Vista in action, but for many it only seems like new tricks for an old dog."

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1931913,00.asp

[deadly7]

Newby beat you to it.

[Warrior]

Forget his, mine is better.

I think this brings up some good points even most I never knew about.
Per application volume control is promising and the improved audio stack is a beauty.
Of course we all knew about the rewritten network stack and how the IO system had been revamped but
damn things like realtime search, power options, network center, and usermode drivers are a sight for sore eyes.

[Ergot]

Much better and well written article than that other one. Looks like they actually spent time researching and know what they are talking about.

[Newby]

x86] link=topic=5021.msg57881#msg57881 date=1141166462]
Forget his, mine is better.

lol.

[Warrior]

x86] link=topic=5021.msg57881#msg57881 date=1141166462]
Forget his, mine is better.

lol.

;). I didn't know it was on slashdot, I read mainly osnews and it always appears a little late. Maybe a merge or something is in order.

[iago]

x86] link=topic=5021.msg57881#msg57881 date=1141166462]
Per application volume control is promising and the improved audio stack is a beauty.

Am I the only one who thinks this sounds really annoying?

Anyway, I don't trust anything that Microsoft says.  Time and time again, they talk big and release crap.  So we'll see. 

[Sidoh]

Am I the only one who thinks this sounds really annoying?

As long as there's a way to set everything to a system defined default (one that the user can also change), I think it's a good idea.  Usually, applications that produce enough sound to matter (Winamp, games, etc) have application-level volume controls, so it doesn't really matter to me that much.  I can already control volume as much as I want to on XP.  It's still a pretty neat feature, though.

Anyway, I don't trust anything that Microsoft says.  Time and time again, they talk big and release crap.  So we'll see. 

Hehe, definitely.  I, for one, am looking forward to testing it, even though I do recognize the possibility of these claims being false.  I trust that they're based on fact to some extent, but I'm not going to accept them as hard facts until I try it for myself.

[Newby]

x86] link=topic=5021.msg57906#msg57906 date=1141171945]

x86] link=topic=5021.msg57881#msg57881 date=1141166462]
Forget his, mine is better.

lol.

;). I didn't know it was on slashdot, I read mainly osnews and it always appears a little late. Maybe a merge or something is in order.

Did you miss my original topic? You should now. I removed it. Post in here. :P

[MyndFyre]

x86] link=topic=5021.msg57881#msg57881 date=1141166462]
Per application volume control is promising and the improved audio stack is a beauty.

Am I the only one who thinks this sounds really annoying?

I think it sounds really useful.  You may not use Windows enough to notice, but I generally turn sounds off in some IM apps because of the annoying sound volume.  If they're going to fix it so that I can just turn an app's sound volume down, that's WAY better.

[Sidoh]

x86] link=topic=5021.msg57922#msg57922 date=1141175829]
I think it sounds really useful.  You may not use Windows enough to notice, but I generally turn sounds off in some IM apps because of the annoying sound volume.  If they're going to fix it so that I can just turn an app's sound volume down, that's WAY better.

I'll still disable those sounds, haha.  The flashing section on the application bar is notification enough for me.

[MyndFyre]

x86] link=topic=5021.msg57922#msg57922 date=1141175829]
I think it sounds really useful.  You may not use Windows enough to notice, but I generally turn sounds off in some IM apps because of the annoying sound volume.  If they're going to fix it so that I can just turn an app's sound volume down, that's WAY better.

I'll still disable those sounds, haha.  The flashing section on the application bar is notification enough for me.

What if you're in fullscreen?  I hate the popup flashing bar too -- it bugs the hell out of me.  Give me just simple, quiet, nonintrusive sounds any day.

[Sidoh]

x86] link=topic=5021.msg57924#msg57924 date=1141176076]
What if you're in fullscreen?  I hate the popup flashing bar too -- it bugs the hell out of me.  Give me just simple, quiet, nonintrusive sounds any day.

If I'm fullscreen, chances are I don't want to be bothered.  If I want to be able to tell that I'm recieiving IM's, I can throw the gaim window on my other monitor.  The flashing bar works great because it functions in the exact way I want a notification to work:

  1) It's only apparent/observable when I want it to be
  2) It's not loud and annoying
  3) It repeats itself in case I missed it (went AFK for 15 seconds or something like that)

This is definitely a subjective matter.  No purpose in arguing it. :)

[iago]

Yeah, in IM aps I like having no notification whatsoever.  I'll check for messages manually when I want to.  But that's totally subjective.

The scenario that would bother me is this.  It's nighttime, people are asleep, so I want my computer quiet.  I turn down my sound and everything is quiet.  It's daytime, I'm alone, I want to hear it from the other room, so I turn the volume up, and everything is loud. 

If the sound volume was relative to the master volume, then this might be handy.  Otherwise, it would be annoying re-adjusting the volume for every open program.  Although I don't generally count on Microsoft getting things right on their first try, can anybody confirm/deny that this is the way it works?

[Newby]

x86] link=topic=5021.msg57922#msg57922 date=1141175829]

x86] link=topic=5021.msg57881#msg57881 date=1141166462]
Per application volume control is promising and the improved audio stack is a beauty.

Am I the only one who thinks this sounds really annoying?

I think it sounds really useful.  You may not use Windows enough to notice, but I generally turn sounds off in some IM apps because of the annoying sound volume.  If they're going to fix it so that I can just turn an app's sound volume down, that's WAY better.

100% agree. I can play a game with low sound and still have my music going at a high volume. :)