child porn fears...

[iago]

From http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/21/us/21porn.html

[snip]

As part of the battle against the spread of child pornography on the
Internet, an initiative has begun allowing for the shutdown or blocking
of sites offering illicit images of minors, even in cases where no
criminal investigation is being conducted.

The initiative, expected to be announced today at a Congressional
hearing, is part of an effort among a group of Internet service
providers and the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.

Until now, the decisions to close child pornography sites were ad hoc,
based on thousands of referrals to the service providers and the
Cybertipline of the center.
[snip]

So they want to be able to block/shutdown a site without investigating it?  How hard is it to investigate, discover it has child porn, and then block it? 

To me, this is as bad as the warrantless wiretapping that was discussed before -- as much as I agree wholeheartedly with the cause and hope that child porn sites do get shut down, I don't want to be giving power to somebody to do anything without proper evidence, and how hard is it to get evidence? 

[Newby]

That's fucked up.

[CrAz3D]

ok, seriously, when I'm president (;)) I'm just going to clean house of ALL OF THE RETARDED LAWS!

How is that not an illegal search & seizure!?

[Armin]

I wouldn't exactly say illegal search and seizure, yet just a break of one of our basic constitutional rights. <delete my post if I shouldn't be saying this>I think we all know somebody that wrongfully got screwed for child pornography, and they even had a criminal investigation take place. Think about what could happen now.</>

[Joe]

ok, seriously, when I'm president (;)) I'm just going to clean house of ALL OF THE RETARDED LAWS!

That's where our government fails. The words "congress overrules the president" come to mind.

How is that not an illegal search & seizure!?

Eh, I'm pretty sure you don't need a warrant to browse a public website. As far as seizure, INAL, so I don't know, but eh.

some quote stuff here

It was wrongful? I thought he actually committed said actions.

[Armin]

From what I heard, he didn't do it.

[CrAz3D]

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ok, seriously, when I'm president (;)) I'm just going to clean house of ALL OF THE RETARDED LAWS!

That's where our government fails. The words "congress overrules the president" come to mind.

what?...

[iago]

From what I heard, he didn't do it.

He was never clear about whether or not he did it, and speculation either way is inappropriate here, so let's just drop the subject. 

And yeah, you can look at pictures that appear to be child porn, get your server blocked, your name smeared, with no official investigation.  Then they investigate, discover that your models were indeed 18 - 25, but by then you're already f'ed up the a-hole