Question re: Constitution

[iago]

But you haven't said WHY I've come to the wrong conclusion, you just said I'm wrong.

Hmm, maybe I forgot to mention it.  Or maybe I said it 5 times.  I forget.  So I'll say it again. 

The QUOTE says who it was WRITTEN BY, and NOT FOR!  And THAT was your question!  So you're drawing the WRONG answer. 

Is that clear enough? 


(Why do arguments with you always end up with the other person repeating himself till he gets frustrated?  Have you noticed  pattern?)

[MyndFyre]

But you haven't said WHY I've come to the wrong conclusion, you just said I'm wrong.

Hmm, maybe I forgot to mention it.  Or maybe I said it 5 times.  I forget.  So I'll say it again. 

The QUOTE says who it was WRITTEN BY, and NOT FOR!  And THAT was your question!  So you're drawing the WRONG answer. 

Is that clear enough? 

(Why do arguments with you always end up with the other person repeating himself till he gets frustrated?  Have you noticed  pattern?)

That's not all though.  The quote also states what it was written for:

...in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity...

[CrAz3D]

But you haven't said WHY I've come to the wrong conclusion, you just said I'm wrong.

Hmm, maybe I forgot to mention it.  Or maybe I said it 5 times.  I forget.  So I'll say it again. 

The QUOTE says who it was WRITTEN BY, and NOT FOR!  And THAT was your question!  So you're drawing the WRONG answer. 

Is that clear enough? 


(Why do arguments with you always end up with the other person repeating himself till he gets frustrated?  Have you noticed  pattern?)

Read the whole thing, then read what MyndFyre said, then read what I said.

Also, I think my original question was regarding for

[dark_drake]

Any one in America, or dirrectally effected by America should be treated like US citizens in regards to the Constitution.

Is it our moral obligation to allow them to bear arms? Why is it our duty to guarantee criminals (illegal immigrants) all rights set forth in the Constitution?

[Sidoh]

Any one in America, or dirrectally effected by America should be treated like US citizens in regards to the Constitution.

I certainly don't think that should be necessarily true for every right issued in the constitution.

[MyndFyre]

Any one in America, or dirrectally effected by America should be treated like US citizens in regards to the Constitution.

I certainly don't think that should be necessarily true for every right issued in the constitution.

I certainly agree.

[iago]

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But you haven't said WHY I've come to the wrong conclusion, you just said I'm wrong.

Hmm, maybe I forgot to mention it.  Or maybe I said it 5 times.  I forget.  So I'll say it again. 

The QUOTE says who it was WRITTEN BY, and NOT FOR!  And THAT was your question!  So you're drawing the WRONG answer. 

Is that clear enough? 

(Why do arguments with you always end up with the other person repeating himself till he gets frustrated?  Have you noticed  pattern?)

That's not all though.  The quote also states what it was written for:

...in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity...

That wasn't in the quote whose meaning he was trying to determine. 

[CrAz3D]

That wasn't in the quote whose meaning he was trying to determine. 

Reread my first post...

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

We the People of the US...& secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves...blah blah blah

so, uh, Constitution is for the people of the US, yeah?

[iago]

That wasn't in the quote whose meaning he was trying to determine. 

Reread my first post...

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

We the People of the US...& secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves...blah blah blah

so, uh, Constitution is for the people of the US, yeah?

That wasn't part of the quote, or enclosed in quotation marks, so I assumed that was YOU talking, not them.  Sorry :P

[CrAz3D]

Maybe you should read so you don't argue on for a few days making yourself look foolish.


So, I guess we can agree that it appears that the Constitution is written by the people of the US for the people of the US.  Cool.
Thats what I was wanting to get others' input on.