Fall Schedules?!

[Sidoh]

I find the question of "what is moral" pretty interesting, actually.  I think it's one of the more important fundamental questions we encounter.

[Joe]

ethics sounds like more fun than php and mysql :)

Completely agree. I tried to get into an ethics class this quarter. Had I done that, I would have had class only on Tuesday/Thursday. Unfortunately, the ethics course was major-restricted, and since I haven't declared computer science as a second major yet I couldn't get in. So I'm in some algorithm class on Monday/Wednesday/Friday. I like my current schedule, though. No finals stacked on the same day. :)

joe: Does the iPhone course count towards anything major-wise? If not, I don't recommend taking it. You can learn that on your own. You'll just end up hating iPhone app development. =p

Not a major, but it counts towards an iPhone Developer certificate. I keep in touch with the instructor and he told me I basically already know the material for the whole first semester.

[Newby]

"iPhone developer certificate" <-- ?

[Joe]

I go to a tech college. Basically, it earns me a sheet of paper saying "Madison Area Technical College thinks this guy might know a thing or two about iPhone development."

[Blaze]

So.. not worth the paper it's printed on?

[Joe]

Blaze, if you were assembling a team of programmers to write iPhone applications, would you hire a guy with a degree in programming which focused on VB.NET and PHP, or a guy with that degree with a certificate for completion of an iPhone development course, with the latter half taught by a developer who has had his application featured on the App Store.

I'd take the second guy too.

[deadly7]

Blaze, if you were assembling a team of programmers to write iPhone applications, would you hire a guy with a degree in programming which focused on VB.NET and PHP, or a guy with that degree with a certificate for completion of an iPhone development course, with the latter half taught by a developer who has had his application featured on the App Store.

I'd take the second guy too.

Where on earth do you get a programming degree based on VB.net & PHP? Any CS program I know of teaches C, Java, at a bare minimum.

[Sidoh]

Blaze, if you were assembling a team of programmers to write iPhone applications, would you hire a guy with a degree in programming which focused on VB.NET and PHP, or a guy with that degree with a certificate for completion of an iPhone development course, with the latter half taught by a developer who has had his application featured on the App Store.

I'd take the second guy too.

Where on earth do you get a programming degree based on VB.net & PHP? Any CS program I know of teaches C, Java, at a bare minimum.

I'm wondering the same...

Most degree plans at least touch scripting, Java, C/C++ and some other more pedagogical language (Haskell, etc...).

Any degree that primarily focused on PHP was probably not a degree in CS.

[Newby]

Blaze, if you were assembling a team of programmers to write iPhone applications, would you hire a guy with a degree in programming which focused on VB.NET and PHP, or a guy with that degree with a certificate for completion of an iPhone development course, with the latter half taught by a developer who has had his application featured on the App Store.

I'd take the second guy too.

I'd rather just hire someone with a degree in computer science. You know, that major that actually encompasses learning some form of programming at some point; I'd rather the degree/qualification cover concepts that aren't specific to one language. =P

[rabbit]

Blaze, if you were assembling a team of programmers to write iPhone applications, would you hire a guy with a degree in programming which focused on VB.NET and PHP, or a guy with that degree with a certificate for completion of an iPhone development course, with the latter half taught by a developer who has had his application featured on the App Store.

I'd take the second guy too.

Where on earth do you get a programming degree based on VB.net & PHP? Any CS program I know of teaches C, Java, at a bare minimum.

Web Design courses might give degrees for PHP...but.......nobody? gives degrees for VB.Net.

[Joe]

Nobody gives degrees for the language used for ASP.NET? Well damn.

[Sidoh]

Nobody gives degrees for the language used for ASP.NET? Well damn.

not computer science programs, anyway...