I am a rockstar!

[trust]

Also, what's wrong with people acting like that?  I'd certainly never get along with him, but I don't think there's anything harmful by the nature of behaving like he does.

It's wrong because I follow society, obviously.

[Sidoh]

It's wrong because I follow society, obviously.

I was trying to provoke a realization on your part.  I have my hypotheses...

[CrAz3D]

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This thread delivers.

You should visit the "Merry Christmas" thread, ha.

[rabbit]

Also, what's wrong with people acting like that?  I'd certainly never get along with him, but I don't think there's anything harmful by the nature of behaving like he does.

It's wrong because I follow society, obviously.

You're an idiot.

[trust]

Also, what's wrong with people acting like that?  I'd certainly never get along with him, but I don't think there's anything harmful by the nature of behaving like he does.

It's wrong because I follow society, obviously.

You're an idiot.

Let me guess, I'm an idiot because I allegedly blindly follow society?

[iago]

I don't have Flash installed, can somebody summarize?

[trust]

I don't have Flash installed, can somebody summarize?

Some (presumably homosexual) guy who looks and sounds like a girl does a booty dance to Fergalicious by Fergie

[iago]

Ah, well, nobody should do that, male or female, so it's relatively moot. :)

[CrAz3D]

Ah, well, nobody should do that, male or female, so it's relatively moot. :)

That's judging...oooh, you're a bad person, oooh

[iago]

Ah, well, nobody should do that, male or female, so it's relatively moot. :)

That's judging...oooh, you're a bad person, oooh

Who said not to judge?

[Armin]

No, society dictates that women are inferior to men, and, as such, saying that a male has female traits is an insult. For example, saying that a man can't drink as much, that he has a vagina, or even that he likes men are ways of assigning female traits to males in order to insult them.

Actually, nature originally dictated it, and society followed. To be honest, I'd like a stay home wife to raise my kids, just because that's been the way of our species even pre-Neanderthal, and I've always believed that sticking to the most natural way of living will be the best for anyone involved. Most species for that matter. I'm not saying women are mentally inferior, I have no idea. I'm just saying that due to survival of the fittest, and men having a greater need for intellect while hunting, there's always a chance that men are in some way mentally superior. We already know we're physically superior (gain muscle mass easier), so why should this be any different?

[CrAz3D]

Ah, well, nobody should do that, male or female, so it's relatively moot. :)

That's judging...oooh, you're a bad person, oooh

Who said not to judge?

You said we shouldn't judge a guy's manliness by comparing him to a woman (or whatever).  You're judging our way of judging ... tsk

[Rule]

No, society dictates that women are inferior to men, and, as such, saying that a male has female traits is an insult. For example, saying that a man can't drink as much, that he has a vagina, or even that he likes men are ways of assigning female traits to males in order to insult them.

Actually, nature originally dictated it, and society followed. To be honest, I'd like a stay home wife to raise my kids, just because that's been the way of our species even pre-Neanderthal, and I've always believed that sticking to the most natural way of living will be the best for anyone involved. Most species for that matter. I'm not saying women are mentally inferior, I have no idea. I'm just saying that due to survival of the fittest, and men having a greater need for intellect while hunting, there's always a chance that men are in some way mentally superior. We already know we're physically superior (gain muscle mass easier), so why should this be any different?

While I think it's reasonable to want a stay at home wife, I'd be very careful invoking "nature" as justification in most situations.  First, what is "natural" is not necessarily moral or in the best interests of society.  Everything we do is natural, how can it not be?  Even the most dispicable, seemingly unusual things people do are instinctual.  Everything is natural, and therefore nothing is justified solely on the basis of being natural.  Also, you could argue that the feminist movement is a natural development, (just as much as anything in human history is), and the fact that their movement is making progress is an example for "survival of the fittest".

Besides, in early history there are many examples of human matriarchal societies. The Jewish people are a well known example of this.  I also think that early natives of South America  were part of a class structure where women were essentially in complete control of anything most consider significant.

[CrAz3D]

Everything we do is natural, how can it not be?  Even the most dispicable, seemingly unusual things people do are instinctual.  Everything is natural, and therefore nothing is justified solely on the basis of being natural.  Also, you could argue that the feminist movement is a natural development, (just as much as anything in human history is), and the fact that their movement is making progress is an example for "survival of the fittest".

So ... in the interest of "survival of the fittest" natural actions are justified?

[Rule]

So ... in the interest of "survival of the fittest" natural actions ok justified?

That's not a coherent sentence.