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Started by iago, January 31, 2008, 10:39:01 PM

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rabbit

Most people eat.  Most people are stupid

Coincidence?


...I'd like to hope so.

Towelie

Quote from: iago on February 05, 2008, 07:55:01 PM
Quote from: Hitmen on February 05, 2008, 06:51:17 PM
Quote from: iago on February 05, 2008, 10:48:49 AM
What I disagree with is Towelie saying that increasing your risk of disease/death is funny.
I think it is pretty funny.

And I'm pretty sure everyone gets cancer at some point in their life these days, so really, what's the problem? :)

Yes, most people get cancer. Also, most people eat meat.

Coincidence?

... probably. 

Haha that immediately reminds me of part of a journal entry I did for English last week. I wanted to see Exodus in concert, and I didn't end up going, and my iPod played it in my car while on shuffle coming home from swim:
"It chose one of the thirty or so songs of that artist from the over 11,000 songs I have on my iPod. That is less that .3% of a chance. Coincidence? Yeah, probably."

Sidoh

Quote from: rabbit on February 05, 2008, 08:11:00 PM
Most people eat.  Most people are stupid

Coincidence?


...I'd like to hope so.

Again, crappy analogy. :P

CrAz3D

Quote from: iago on February 05, 2008, 08:22:12 AM
Quote from: Towelie on February 05, 2008, 01:21:36 AM
Quote from: iago on February 04, 2008, 08:24:41 AM
Quote from: Sidoh on February 04, 2008, 12:37:14 AM
Quote from: Towelie on February 04, 2008, 12:35:12 AM
I love you Rule.  :-*

He's already said what we were in the past is pretty much irrelevant to the choice of your eating habits today.

Perhaps Towelie likes people who disagree with him? *shrug*
I wasn't arguing that it was relevant to today's eating habits. My intentions (even if what I said said otherwise) was to point out why I thought that statement was funny, in a way.

You think that the vast majority of people raising their risk of deadly diseases is funny? :-/

Living raises that risk more than anything FYI

leet_muffin

Quote from: CrAz3D on February 05, 2008, 09:29:30 PM
Quote from: iago on February 05, 2008, 08:22:12 AM
Quote from: Towelie on February 05, 2008, 01:21:36 AM
Quote from: iago on February 04, 2008, 08:24:41 AM
Quote from: Sidoh on February 04, 2008, 12:37:14 AM
Quote from: Towelie on February 04, 2008, 12:35:12 AM
I love you Rule.  :-*

He's already said what we were in the past is pretty much irrelevant to the choice of your eating habits today.

Perhaps Towelie likes people who disagree with him? *shrug*
I wasn't arguing that it was relevant to today's eating habits. My intentions (even if what I said said otherwise) was to point out why I thought that statement was funny, in a way.

You think that the vast majority of people raising their risk of deadly diseases is funny? :-/

Living raises that risk more than anything FYI

The risk of being funny? Not for some people.
The douchebag method:
Quote from: Trust on April 19, 2008, 02:58:00 AM
fuck allfo you i dont give a fuck ill fight everyone of you fuck that sbhit fuck you

Ender

Quote from: leet_muffin on February 05, 2008, 11:31:42 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on February 05, 2008, 09:29:30 PM
Quote from: iago on February 05, 2008, 08:22:12 AM
Quote from: Towelie on February 05, 2008, 01:21:36 AM
Quote from: iago on February 04, 2008, 08:24:41 AM
Quote from: Sidoh on February 04, 2008, 12:37:14 AM
Quote from: Towelie on February 04, 2008, 12:35:12 AM
I love you Rule.  :-*

He's already said what we were in the past is pretty much irrelevant to the choice of your eating habits today.

Perhaps Towelie likes people who disagree with him? *shrug*
I wasn't arguing that it was relevant to today's eating habits. My intentions (even if what I said said otherwise) was to point out why I thought that statement was funny, in a way.

You think that the vast majority of people raising their risk of deadly diseases is funny? :-/

Living raises that risk more than anything FYI

The risk of being funny? Not for some people.

I find CrAz3d funny! (On some days.)

On another note, did you know that a bar of Starburst provides you with 50% DV of vitamin C? This is its one (and only) redeeming factor.

iago

Quote from: CrAz3D on February 05, 2008, 09:29:30 PM
Living raises that risk more than anything FYI
As I said before, read the long post I made about risk. The benefits to living outweighs the risks, so it's irrelevant to the discussion.

Before you post about risks here, please think about the risk/benefit -- it's not a good analogy until they start becoming close. With eating meat, I'd say that the risk/benefit is much closer.

Hitmen

Quote from: iago on February 06, 2008, 09:54:44 AM
The benefits to living outweighs the risks
Uhhh, that depends on the person. I don't think the risk of certain people living is worth it at all  ;D
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Blaze

Quote from: Hitmen on February 06, 2008, 10:58:31 AM
Quote from: iago on February 06, 2008, 09:54:44 AM
The benefits to living outweighs the risks
Uhhh, that depends on the person. I don't think the risk of certain people living is worth it at all  ;D

You know how whiny Newby gets when you make fun of him.  Way to go!  >: (
And like a fool I believed myself, and thought I was somebody else...

Newby

Quote from: Blaze on February 06, 2008, 02:46:50 PM
Quote from: Hitmen on February 06, 2008, 10:58:31 AM
Quote from: iago on February 06, 2008, 09:54:44 AM
The benefits to living outweighs the risks
Uhhh, that depends on the person. I don't think the risk of certain people living is worth it at all  ;D

You know how whiny Newby gets when you make fun of him.  Way to go!  >: (

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Quote from: Rule on June 30, 2008, 01:13:20 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on June 30, 2008, 10:38:22 AM
I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

CrAz3D

Quote from: iago on February 06, 2008, 09:54:44 AM
Quote from: CrAz3D on February 05, 2008, 09:29:30 PM
Living raises that risk more than anything FYI
As I said before, read the long post I made about risk. The benefits to living outweighs the risks, so it's irrelevant to the discussion.

Before you post about risks here, please think about the risk/benefit -- it's not a good analogy until they start becoming close. With eating meat, I'd say that the risk/benefit is much closer.


Cost/benefit analysis don't necessarily lead to the best conclusion.  Ford's analysis suggested that they keep with the horribly designed Pinto because it was cheaper to let people die than fix it.

Meat rocks.  Period.  It's a lifestyle choice, not a healthier choice.

Sidoh

Quote from: CrAz3D on February 11, 2008, 06:06:02 PM
Cost/benefit analysis don't necessarily lead to the best conclusion.  Ford's analysis suggested that they keep with the horribly designed Pinto because it was cheaper to let people die than fix it.

Meat rocks.  Period.  It's a lifestyle choice, not a healthier choice.

When there isn't a clear, objective answer, it's the only mechanism for arriving at a reasonable conclusion...

It's absolutely a choice that can be made for health reasons.

Rule

Quote from: CrAz3D on February 11, 2008, 06:06:02 PM
Quote from: iago on February 06, 2008, 09:54:44 AM
Quote from: CrAz3D on February 05, 2008, 09:29:30 PM
Living raises that risk more than anything FYI
As I said before, read the long post I made about risk. The benefits to living outweighs the risks, so it's irrelevant to the discussion.

Before you post about risks here, please think about the risk/benefit -- it's not a good analogy until they start becoming close. With eating meat, I'd say that the risk/benefit is much closer.


Cost/benefit analysis don't necessarily lead to the best conclusion.  Ford's analysis suggested that they keep with the horribly designed Pinto because it was cheaper to let people die than fix it.

By definition it leaves you with the best result for you.  You can't get around that.  Your example shows nothing.



CrAz3D

Ok, I'll make sure to disregard all other people from now on to better myself.  K thanks bye.

Rule

Quote from: CrAz3D on February 11, 2008, 06:13:13 PM
Ok, I'll make sure to disregard all other people from now on to better myself.  K thanks bye.

You include the side effects of your actions in the cost/benefit analysis.  In your example, harming other people would be seen as a cost.  Whatever you get out of harming the people would be seen as a benefit.  If Sum[benefits-costs]>0, then you are better off making that action.  You still don't understand?  The weighting of each cost and benefit is subjective, but it still leads to the best possible decision you can make for yourself, which includes how much your decision affects other people.