Canada becomes one of the top 3 copyright violators in the world!

[MyndFyre]

 :o

http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/08/02/13/0056249.shtml

A CBC story reports that the US-based International Intellectual Property Alliance claims Canada has joined Russia and China among the biggest violators of US copyright law. Quoting: "The group's report is the latest to urge the US government into pressuring Ottawa to reform copyright laws." As we have previously discussed here, the current Conservative government had planned to introduce a new copyright law, but dissent from the privacy commissioner and a groundswell of public protest delayed that action.

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All I can do is lol.

[iago]

Note: this is a quick response without fully understanding the situation. I reserve the right to post something more meaningful later...
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This just in: US is the biggest violator of Canadian privacy laws.

Oh wait, who cares about following other countries' laws? :P

[CrAz3D]

Note: this is a quick response without fully understanding the situation. I reserve the right to post something more meaningful later...
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This just in: US is the biggest violator of Canadian privacy laws.

Oh wait, who cares about following other countries' laws? :P

Proof?

[chuck]

US copyright laws should really only apply in the US

[CrAz3D]

US copyright laws should really only apply in the US

That's stupid.

[iago]

Note: this is a quick response without fully understanding the situation. I reserve the right to post something more meaningful later...
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This just in: US is the biggest violator of Canadian privacy laws.

Oh wait, who cares about following other countries' laws? :P

Proof?

Proof of what?

I just used privacy laws as an example (the government isn't legally allowed to spy on people without probable cause in Canada, nor can they take our data without permission or publicity). But that was just a quick one.

I should have said that US citizens violate Canada's gun laws. Same idea, really -- what Chuck said.  

[iago]

US copyright laws should really only apply in the US

That's stupid.

Turn in your weapons, then. They aren't allowed according to Canadian law.

We can start looking at taking away your knives under UK laws later.

[CrAz3D]

US citizens owning guns in the US doesn't directly hurt Canada.
Canadian citizens breaking US copyright laws directly hurts the US.

[iago]

When people are selling products in another country, they abide by that country's laws. In Canada, we pay a duty on every blank media we buy (CDs, harddrives, etc.) which gives us the right to copy it.

Also, I wouldn't say it's "hurting" anybody, but that's a whole other discussion

[CrAz3D]

Ok, you want a CD of ARTIST.

Either you buy the CD of ARTIST for $20 or burn it for $2 (whatever the cost of blank CDs are there), the US still loses money.




Counter-example:
US passes a law saying all oil that we can access is ours.  We move up there and start drilling, but because we aren't violating our laws it's ok.

[MyndFyre]

When people are selling products in another country, they abide by that country's laws. In Canada, we pay a duty on every blank media we buy (CDs, harddrives, etc.) which gives us the right to copy it.

Also, I wouldn't say it's "hurting" anybody, but that's a whole other discussion

This is an example: it corrects the tax loss of music for Canada, but not the artist revenue loss.

[Explicit]

The way I see it, the US is a big bully.

[MyndFyre]

The way I see it, the US is a big bully.

Welcome to the theory of realism in the study of international relations.  All we have to do to make you a convert is get you to believe that the US should CONTINUE to be a big bully. ;)

[iago]

When people are selling products in another country, they abide by that country's laws. In Canada, we pay a duty on every blank media we buy (CDs, harddrives, etc.) which gives us the right to copy it.

Also, I wouldn't say it's "hurting" anybody, but that's a whole other discussion

This is an example: it corrects the tax loss of music for Canada, but not the artist revenue loss.

The levy we pay goes directly to the artists, so that isn't true. That's the whole point of the levy.

[CrAz3D]

So .... 18.9% of $.21 per CD = $.03969 per copied disk.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_copying_levy#Canada

A new artist on a major or a large indie label would typically receive net proceeds of about $1.20 per CD sale, whereas a star performer might get about double that

http://www.forbes.com/media/2007/06/07/music-warner-atlantic-biz-media_cx_lh_0608indie.html


$.04 vs. $1.20-$2.40, hmm.  $.04 doesn't seem to make up for the loss in the least bit.