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Started by deadly7, May 02, 2008, 11:18:11 PM

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Armin

Right now it's the number one selling moving in America. Inside of the theater, I sat next to a huge, loud black lady that could barely fit in her seat that munched on a large bag of popcorn and soda all for herself. An entire church group sat on my right. I'm starting to think, "Wait a second... Best selling movie, stereotypical Americans watching on both sides...? Don't tell me..."

The only way for a movie to make as much money in America as that one did was to pack in with American stereotypes. They glorified the killing of "evil" terrorists, while saving middle eastern civilians. Any time an American citizen was about to die, everything would turn dramatic. American kill count: 5-6. Terrorist kill count: 100+.

Any product placement further pissed me off. The main character, a billionaire, was using a cheap LG flip phone. When he asked for an "American burger" upon his return from the Middle East, he had Burger King.

Overall, it had great special effects and your normal superhero movie plot, but the whole, "We do it the American way!" thing pissed me off to the point where I could barely enjoy the movie.
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iago

Quote from: Metal Militia on May 10, 2008, 12:59:10 PM
Right now it's the number one selling moving in America. Inside of the theater, I sat next to a huge, loud black lady that could barely fit in her seat that munched on a large bag of popcorn and soda all for herself. An entire church group sat on my right. I'm starting to think, "Wait a second... Best selling movie, stereotypical Americans watching on both sides...? Don't tell me..."

The only way for a movie to make as much money in America as that one did was to pack in with American stereotypes. They glorified the killing of "evil" terrorists, while saving middle eastern civilians. Any time an American citizen was about to die, everything would turn dramatic. American kill count: 5-6. Terrorist kill count: 100+.

Any product placement further pissed me off. The main character, a billionaire, was using a cheap LG flip phone. When he asked for an "American burger" upon his return from the Middle East, he had Burger King.

Overall, it had great special effects and your normal superhero movie plot, but the whole, "We do it the American way!" thing pissed me off to the point where I could barely enjoy the movie.
Heh, I remember seeing the preview for this a couple months ago and thinking about how they're appealing to the lowest common denominator. :)

Sidoh

I had the same problem with it.  I still enjoyed the movie; I think they did a great job with the effects, plot, etc.  However, the whole "American way" thing did take away from it a bit.

Quote from: iago on May 10, 2008, 01:20:34 PM
Heh, I remember seeing the preview for this a couple months ago and thinking about how they're appealing to the lowest common denominator. :)

Yep, they definitely did.  Overall, though, I thought it was still worth watching. 

iago

Quote from: Sidoh on May 10, 2008, 01:22:06 PM
Quote from: iago on May 10, 2008, 01:20:34 PM
Heh, I remember seeing the preview for this a couple months ago and thinking about how they're appealing to the lowest common denominator. :)

Yep, they definitely did.  Overall, though, I thought it was still worth watching. 

Well, I wasn't going to bother anyways, because I don't care about actiony movies, or movies based on comic books, those kinds of things have never appealed to me. So nothing really changes. :)

warz

at least it didn't appeal to canadians, or indians. it would have sucked, then.
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leet_muffin

Quote from: Metal Militia on May 10, 2008, 12:59:10 PM
Right now it's the number one selling moving in America. Inside of the theater, I sat next to a huge, loud black lady that could barely fit in her seat that munched on a large bag of popcorn and soda all for herself. An entire church group sat on my right. I'm starting to think, "Wait a second... Best selling movie, stereotypical Americans watching on both sides...? Don't tell me..."

The only way for a movie to make as much money in America as that one did was to pack in with American stereotypes. They glorified the killing of "evil" terrorists, while saving middle eastern civilians. Any time an American citizen was about to die, everything would turn dramatic. American kill count: 5-6. Terrorist kill count: 100+.

Any product placement further pissed me off. The main character, a billionaire, was using a cheap LG flip phone. When he asked for an "American burger" upon his return from the Middle East, he had Burger King.

Overall, it had great special effects and your normal superhero movie plot, but the whole, "We do it the American way!" thing pissed me off to the point where I could barely enjoy the movie.

I thought that would be rather obvious. The people who made the movie were looking to make a very well selling movie, and as such appealed to the culture of American mainstream society. Not to say they're right in doing that, just that they're making monies.
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Blaze

Quote from: warz on May 10, 2008, 07:03:12 PM
at least it didn't appeal to canadians, or indians. it would have sucked, then.

All they need to appeal to Canadians is show one box of Kroff Dinner in one of the backgrounds... I'd go see what the movie was aboot if it had that.
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Sidoh

Quote from: leet_muffin on May 10, 2008, 07:17:07 PM
I thought that would be rather obvious. The people who made the movie were looking to make a very well selling movie, and as such appealed to the culture of American mainstream society. Not to say they're right in doing that, just that they're making monies.

No one said they made an observation of something subtle.  It was obvious, but that doesn't mean it can't bother us.

leet_muffin

Clarification: I thought it'd be rather obvious that a movie selling to a majority of American society would be filled with aspects of "mainstream" American culture.

Also, I'm not saying it can't bother you. It bothers me. I'm just not at all surprised by it.
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Quote from: Trust on April 19, 2008, 02:58:00 AM
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deadly7

People like you guys bug me. "Iron Man" isn't one of those movies that's supposed to leave you thinking (unlike "V for Vendetta" for example). It's just a movie that you go into, turn your brain off, watch, and have massive amounts of fun. People commented on the same thing you guys did, and I just found it really annoying.
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Sidoh

Quote from: deadly7 on May 11, 2008, 02:15:57 PM
People like you guys bug me. "Iron Man" isn't one of those movies that's supposed to leave you thinking (unlike "V for Vendetta" for example). It's just a movie that you go into, turn your brain off, watch, and have massive amounts of fun. People commented on the same thing you guys did, and I just found it really annoying.

It matters very little to me that you "have a bone to pick" with my criticisms.  The glorification of "the American way", though, irked me, but I did enjoy the movie.  Your ability to "shut off your brain and enjoy the movie" does not necessitate the same behavior in others...

iago

It seems to me that turning off your brain on a movie like this is an incredibly bad idea. That just leaves you more open to the negative effects of this kind of stuff.

CrAz3D

Quote from: Sidoh on May 11, 2008, 02:28:00 PM
The glorification of "the American way"
It's probably because every other way sucks.

And Metal, knocking the BK Lounge?  Burger King rocks!  And what kind of cell phone SHOULD he have been using?

deadly7

Quote from: iago on May 12, 2008, 10:21:14 AM
It seems to me that turning off your brain on a movie like this is an incredibly bad idea. That just leaves you more open to the negative effects of this kind of stuff.
Yeah. I totally walked out of the movie and went "FUCK YEAH! AMERICA RULLLLLESS! WOOOOOO! LET'S GO SHOOT SOME MIDDLE EASTERN BITCHES UP"
[17:42:21.609] <Ergot> Kutsuju you're girlfrieds pussy must be a 403 error for you
[17:42:25.585] <Ergot> FORBIDDEN

on IRC playing T&T++
<iago> He is unarmed
<Hitmen> he has no arms?!

on AIM with a drunk mythix:
(00:50:05) Mythix: Deadly
(00:50:11) Mythix: I'm going to fuck that red dot out of your head.
(00:50:15) Mythix: with my nine

iago

Quote from: deadly7 on May 12, 2008, 11:36:08 AM
Quote from: iago on May 12, 2008, 10:21:14 AM
It seems to me that turning off your brain on a movie like this is an incredibly bad idea. That just leaves you more open to the negative effects of this kind of stuff.
Yeah. I totally walked out of the movie and went "FUCK YEAH! AMERICA RULLLLLESS! WOOOOOO! LET'S GO SHOOT SOME MIDDLE EASTERN BITCHES UP"
It's much more subtle than that. Talk to an average person about the middle east and you'll see.