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Re: Novice Programmer
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2004, 09:58:35 pm »
Okay i don't care lol

I want a teacher....
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Re: Novice Programmer
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2004, 11:21:28 pm »
The best thing you could do for yourself is to buy a book...

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Re: Novice Programmer
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2004, 05:09:51 am »
Well a book teaches you "basics" of the language not how to program it to "battle.net" which is what i want to do.

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Within the perfect architecture of thought,
logic may often provide the structure
but from emotion comes the inspiration.
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Re: Novice Programmer
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2004, 01:47:30 pm »
"Battle.net" is a fairly advanced topic.  It's best to start with something that's possible to do without ripping off all the code.  I didn't even attempt to make a bot until a couple yars after I started programming, because I wanted to make sure I was ready for it, and I didn't want to be asking stupid questions.  Of course, now with the bnls and the packet buffers and all the other crap, it's a lot easier to do, but you should be able to do all that yourself in my opinion :(

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Re: Novice Programmer
« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2004, 06:13:49 pm »
Okay man, I'll learn "Visual Basic" myself and when i know everything i'll ask again :-D haha!

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Within the perfect architecture of thought,
logic may often provide the structure
but from emotion comes the inspiration.
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« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2004, 06:20:57 pm »
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I wish I had a ferrari!
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[17:32:45] * xar sets mode: -oooooooooo algorithm ban chris cipher newby stdio TehUser tnarongi|away vursed warz
[17:32:54] * xar sets mode: +o newby
[17:32:58] <xar> new rule
[17:33:02] <xar> me and newby rule all

I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

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Re: Novice Programmer
« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2004, 06:45:31 pm »
.....Cough
Within the perfect architecture of thought,
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Re: Novice Programmer
« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2004, 07:50:30 pm »
Okay man, I'll learn "Visual Basic" myself and when i know everything i'll ask again :-D haha!

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If you really knew everything you wouldn't have to ask again..  ;)

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Re: Novice Programmer
« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2004, 06:13:29 pm »
Ill learn "visual basic" not the bnet side of it...

duh
Within the perfect architecture of thought,
logic may often provide the structure
but from emotion comes the inspiration.
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Re: Novice Programmer
« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2004, 07:09:06 am »
Actually I wouldn't suggest that, it's like REALLY crappy. Start out with C++, it's interesting and extremely powerful. Yes Quik, Java is going to be the monopoly of programming languages, eventually.

Don't have a book? Well, go pick up some Dietel and Dietel ones, or www.johnsmiley.com, he has great books. If you cannot buy a book at the moment, Fyre has made some great tutorials which are located at...http://forum.clan-exile.com/viewtopic.php?t=55
Goog luck!

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Re: Novice Programmer
« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2004, 09:04:28 am »
Actually I wouldn't suggest that, it's like REALLY crappy. Start out with C++, it's interesting and extremely powerful. Yes Quik, Java is going to be the monopoly of programming languages, eventually.
Not necessarily true.

Games dominate the market essencially. If you wrote a game in Java, I'd slap you until you bled.
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[17:32:45] * xar sets mode: -oooooooooo algorithm ban chris cipher newby stdio TehUser tnarongi|away vursed warz
[17:32:54] * xar sets mode: +o newby
[17:32:58] <xar> new rule
[17:33:02] <xar> me and newby rule all

I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

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Re: Novice Programmer
« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2004, 09:39:49 am »
Games are a small part of the market.  Business class applications that every business can't do without (Microsoft Office, for instance) dominate the market. 

Also, VB is a good place to start.  It gives you an idea of how to program, and it's simple and english-like.  The mistake people make is that they don't move away from VB once they've learned everything it has to offer, and they continue to beat a dead horse. 

Incidentally, Java runs much faster than VB (we're proven this at work), and there are games written in VB.  So there.

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Re: Novice Programmer
« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2004, 09:33:42 pm »
I remember reading somewhere and iago telling me that Java will soon take over C++. It does look like a lot more users are using Java though, since it works on every O/S.

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Re: Novice Programmer
« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2004, 05:54:29 pm »
Ill learn "visual basic" not the bnet side of it...

duh
Never knew Visual Basic had a bnet side of it.  I think I need to search for this one day. :o

EDIT: Visual Basic is my life. <3

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Re: Novice Programmer
« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2004, 06:51:17 pm »
Wires, you have no life. ;)