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leet_muffin

Quote from: BigAznDaddy on September 24, 2008, 11:46:25 PM
Quote from: leet_muffin on September 24, 2008, 11:26:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYxTzDFofZQ This probably deserves it's own thread, but I don't make threads. Troops stationed in America trained for civil unrest + crowd control: when police and SWAT teams aren't enough for people who aren't even allowed automatic weapons.
riots get out of hand fast have you seen those clips where people come in with motlove cocktails. and all the SWAT has is water cannons. cause lets admit it if cops were to fire live ammunition onto a crowd there would be major media whores coming in and mobbing the place.

Isn't this exactly the same for the military? Or worse?
The douchebag method:
Quote from: Trust on April 19, 2008, 02:58:00 AM
fuck allfo you i dont give a fuck ill fight everyone of you fuck that sbhit fuck you

Towelie

That seems like a horrible idea. Hahaha...

iago

Quote from: BigAznDaddy on September 24, 2008, 11:46:25 PM
Quote from: leet_muffin on September 24, 2008, 11:26:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYxTzDFofZQ This probably deserves it's own thread, but I don't make threads. Troops stationed in America trained for civil unrest + crowd control: when police and SWAT teams aren't enough for people who aren't even allowed automatic weapons.
riots get out of hand fast have you seen those clips where people come in with motlove cocktails. and all the SWAT has is water cannons. cause lets admit it if cops were to fire live ammunition onto a crowd there would be major media whores coming in and mobbing the place.
That's been tried on several occasions in history, and it seems like people just don't like civilians being mowed down. How strange!

BigAznDaddy

Quote from: iago on September 25, 2008, 08:24:39 AM
Quote from: BigAznDaddy on September 24, 2008, 11:46:25 PM
Quote from: leet_muffin on September 24, 2008, 11:26:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYxTzDFofZQ This probably deserves it's own thread, but I don't make threads. Troops stationed in America trained for civil unrest + crowd control: when police and SWAT teams aren't enough for people who aren't even allowed automatic weapons.
riots get out of hand fast have you seen those clips where people come in with motlove cocktails. and all the SWAT has is water cannons. cause lets admit it if cops were to fire live ammunition onto a crowd there would be major media whores coming in and mobbing the place.
That's been tried on several occasions in history, and it seems like people just don't like civilians being mowed down. How strange!

Lesson: don't be in a riot

iago

Quote from: BigAznDaddy on September 25, 2008, 09:13:03 AM
Lesson: don't be in a riot
That's crap. There are perfectly legitimate reasons for people to riot, it's a valid (and extreme) form of protest.

If you seriously think it's ok for the government to gun down unarmed civilians, then you have issues.

Sidoh

Quote from: iago on September 25, 2008, 09:26:09 AM
Quote from: BigAznDaddy on September 25, 2008, 09:13:03 AM
Lesson: don't be in a riot
That's crap. There are perfectly legitimate reasons for people to riot, it's a valid (and extreme) form of protest.

If you seriously think it's ok for the government to gun down unarmed civilians, then you have issues.

Totally agreed.

Lead

yes big bell box meal for 5$ includes

1 bean burrito
1 crunchwrap supreme
1 volcano taco (0.5 alarm fire spicy, pussy shit)
1 large fountain drink
cinnamon twisty things

BEST DEAL EVAR


QuoteSon, if you really want something in this life, you have to work for it. Now quiet! They're about to announce the lottery numbers. - Homer Simpson

BigAznDaddy

the riots i think about are where people thrash though malls destroying, stealing, causing mayhem. so in order to detain the mishaps and possible death the government must step in with less than lethal techniques. thats why the creation of rubber bullets, bean bags, water cannons, tear gas, and tazers are used to disperse crowds not to kill

iago

Quote from: BigAznDaddy on September 25, 2008, 12:07:43 PM
the riots i think about are where people thrash though malls destroying, stealing, causing mayhem. so in order to detain the mishaps and possible death the government must step in with less than lethal techniques. thats why the creation of rubber bullets, bean bags, water cannons, tear gas, and tazers are used to disperse crowds not to kill
Riots are when such a huge issue builds up that the only solution people see is taking to the streets and being heard.

Rubber bullets, tear gas, etc are understandable, because you aren't killing anybody. Real bullets and nerve gas, on the other hand, aren't. There's a line between breaking a riot and wholesale slaughter.

Sidoh

Quote from: Lead on September 25, 2008, 12:04:49 PM
yes big bell box meal for 5$ includes

1 bean burrito
1 crunchwrap supreme
1 volcano taco (0.5 alarm fire spicy, pussy shit)
1 large fountain drink
cinnamon twisty things

BEST DEAL EVAR

You forgot to list:

1 or more miserable evenings.

truste1

Quote from: Rule on September 25, 2008, 12:40:35 AM
Quote from: truste1 on September 24, 2008, 10:57:17 PM
Quote from: Rule on September 24, 2008, 01:52:26 AM
Newby. :(.
Don't become a stereotype... And don't join a frat.  It's basically paying for friends, to become their bitch, and for desperate, insecure women.



You have no idea what you are talking about.

Says the living, unexperienced, stereotype.  The person who only years ago wasn't even sure he was "comfortable" with the idea his girlfriend initiated hand-holding.

A lot changes in four years time. In regards to the fraternity, you aren't paying for your friends...your dues go towards your social calendar. I don't think all schools have a Greek system like mine (for instance, it's frowned upon here to wear letter shirts, fraternity houses are about a three minute walk from dormitories, etc.), but here most of our dues goes to bands on the weekends. It's a small school and usually several fraternities will have a band Saturday afternoon or night after a football game, and everyone is allowed to come down not just people in fraternities.

Take for example this weekend, it's parents weekend. We're spending $200 on a full pig to roast at our tailgate, not to mention bottled water, sodas, chips, sides (potato salad, coleslaw, etc.) another $200 on wine and beer for parents, and somewhere around $1000 for a Motown band to play after the football game for four hours. Our dues are $1300, so one person is basically paying for this entire weekend. Factor in the amount you have to pay nationals (I don't know the exact figure, but I think it's around $10,000 for us), the house next to ours pays $24,000. Then you have money you have to pay to the school. Then you have money you have to pay for rush events during the week (chips, pizzas, beer for Monday Night Football or other things). Then house-related purchases (I'm the historian and just spent $300 on new picture frames). Speakers for the party bunker. Ritual materials, dry cleaning for robes, etc. Trust me, the money goes to much more than just paying for friends. At least at my campus, fraternities provide pretty much all of the weekend social entertainment on campus.

To my knowledge you weren't in a fraternity so you don't even know the half of it.
Ain't Life Grand?

Lead

Quote from: Sidoh on September 25, 2008, 12:18:37 PM
Quote from: Lead on September 25, 2008, 12:04:49 PM
yes big bell box meal for 5$ includes

1 bean burrito
1 crunchwrap supreme
1 volcano taco (0.5 alarm fire spicy, pussy shit)
1 large fountain drink
cinnamon twisty things

BEST DEAL EVAR

You forgot to list:

1 or more miserable evenings.

ill take my chances ;p


QuoteSon, if you really want something in this life, you have to work for it. Now quiet! They're about to announce the lottery numbers. - Homer Simpson

BigAznDaddy

Quote from: iago on September 25, 2008, 12:14:21 PM
Quote from: BigAznDaddy on September 25, 2008, 12:07:43 PM
the riots i think about are where people thrash though malls destroying, stealing, causing mayhem. so in order to detain the mishaps and possible death the government must step in with less than lethal techniques. thats why the creation of rubber bullets, bean bags, water cannons, tear gas, and tazers are used to disperse crowds not to kill
Riots are when such a huge issue builds up that the only solution people see is taking to the streets and being heard.

Rubber bullets, tear gas, etc are understandable, because you aren't killing anybody. Real bullets and nerve gas, on the other hand, aren't. There's a line between breaking a riot and wholesale slaughter.

yeah and i thought i heard in the clip that the military were being trained with non lethal weapons thats why i went on about how i thought it was ok

Sidoh

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Quote from: truste1 on September 25, 2008, 12:18:48 PM
A lot changes in four years time. In regards to the fraternity, you aren't paying for your friends...your dues go towards your social calendar. I don't think all schools have a Greek system like mine (for instance, it's frowned upon here to wear letter shirts, fraternity houses are about a three minute walk from dormitories, etc.), but here most of our dues goes to bands on the weekends. It's a small school and usually several fraternities will have a band Saturday afternoon or night after a football game, and everyone is allowed to come down not just people in fraternities.

Take for example this weekend, it's parents weekend. We're spending $200 on a full pig to roast at our tailgate, not to mention bottled water, sodas, chips, sides (potato salad, coleslaw, etc.) another $200 on wine and beer for parents, and somewhere around $1000 for a Motown band to play after the football game for four hours. Our dues are $1300, so one person is basically paying for this entire weekend. Factor in the amount you have to pay nationals (I don't know the exact figure, but I think it's around $10,000 for us), the house next to ours pays $24,000. Then you have money you have to pay to the school. Then you have money you have to pay for rush events during the week (chips, pizzas, beer for Monday Night Football or other things). Then house-related purchases (I'm the historian and just spent $300 on new picture frames). Speakers for the party bunker. Ritual materials, dry cleaning for robes, etc. Trust me, the money goes to much more than just paying for friends. At least at my campus, fraternities provide pretty much all of the weekend social entertainment on campus.

To my knowledge you weren't in a fraternity so you don't even know the half of it.

I don't exactly agree with what you said here, but I think fraternities have their merit.  They're great for networking from what I've seen.  One of the guys I worked with over the summer didn't even apply for the job.  A Lockheed Martin recruiter who was "in" with his fraternity knew him and asked him to come in for an interview.

Regardless, though, I haven't encountered a fraternity that I'd want to be a part of.  I know that a lot of people have fun with that kind of stuff, and I trust that I would too, but I refuse to have fun at the expense of any non-negligible part of my education.  It seems that this lifestyle involves at least a small sacrifice of the quality of my education, which I'm not willing to make.

Quote from: Lead on September 25, 2008, 12:23:09 PM
ill take my chances ;p

lol, it is a pretty sweet deal.  Taco Bell is usually pretty good, but I typically feel a bit sick after eating there. :P

iago

Quote from: BigAznDaddy on September 25, 2008, 12:23:25 PM
yeah and i thought i heard in the clip that the military were being trained with non lethal weapons thats why i went on about how i thought it was ok
Well, the first post of yours in this series seemed to imply that using lethal force was a good thing.