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Serial comma or no serial comma?

Started by MyndFyre, January 20, 2011, 05:55:17 PM

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MyndFyre

I've been a strong advocate of the serial comma.  I believe it flows well with natural speech, inserts normal separation between a list of items, and provides for a clear separation of ideas.

Discuss.
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iago

"I like to use as many commas as possible" --my friend

Blaze

Quote from: iago on January 20, 2011, 06:36:29 PM
"I like to use as many commas as possible" --my friend


"I too, personally, try to, as the opportunity arises, use as many commas as possible.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"
And like a fool I believed myself, and thought I was somebody else...

CrAz3D

I tend to, but my profs keep putting an insane influence on being concise.

Rule

Quote from: CrAz3D on January 21, 2011, 04:23:12 PM
I tend to, but my profs keep putting an insane influence on being concise.

It's important to be concise.

Sidoh

Quote from: Rule on January 22, 2011, 12:38:40 AM
Quote from: CrAz3D on January 21, 2011, 04:23:12 PM
I tend to, but my profs keep putting an insane influence on being concise.

It's important to be concise.

:)

while1

I too, am for the use of the serial comma.  I prefer to use the serial comma because it better mirrors the cadence of spoken English and provides disambiguation when interpreting the meaning and flow of written English. 

I convey my thoughts, feelings, and ideas better in written communication than ad-hoc verbal communication because I'm such a scatter brained, inarticulate, and think-out-loud speaker.
I tend to edit my topics and replies frequently.

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CrAz3D

Quote from: CrAz3D on January 21, 2011, 04:23:12 PM
I tend to, but my profs keep putting an insane influence on being concise.
insane influence?  that doesnt make sense.

while1

Quote from: CrAz3D on January 22, 2011, 07:06:31 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on January 21, 2011, 04:23:12 PM
I tend to, but my profs keep putting an insane influence on being concise.
insane influence?  that doesnt make sense.

I concur, talking to yourself does not make sense.
I tend to edit my topics and replies frequently.

http://www.operationsmile.org

Ender

Logically, it makes more sense to have a serial comma. Let's say you have the list

Germany, Spain and France, England, and America.

The serial comma in this case indicates that America and England should be grouped in the same way as Spain and France are grouped.

For instance, let's say the aforementioned countries went to war. The italicized list could be used to show that Spain and France were allied in a four-way war. If you omit the serial comma, then England and America would all of a sudden appear to be allied. This is certainly an uncommon example, but logically it makes a lot of sense.

However, context matters. In fiction it might be more aesthetically pleasing to omit the final comma. Even in everyday writing, the writer might want to omit the last comma to make the sentence flow better. Unless the serial comma makes a logical difference in the sentence, I think it's mostly a matter of style. And since it rarely makes a difference, it's common to see both.

Falcon

You grammar nazis are ridiculous. Period.

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Newby

Depends on what I'm saying. If I feel the sentence is better stated without a serial comma, I won't use it. If I feel it makes the sentence flow better I'll use it.
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Quote from: CrAz3D on June 30, 2008, 10:38:22 AM
I'd bet that you're currently bloated like a water ballon on a hot summer's day.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.  Why would a water balloon be especially bloated on a hot summer's day? For your sake, I hope there wasn't too much logic testing on your LSAT. 

CrAz3D

Today in my legal writing class we received an excerpt from a contract (link below). That whole block of text contains...I think...maybe three sentences.

http://dailycrazed.net/personal/k.pdf

CrAz3D

sidenote: wow...that little "camscan" program on my phone is pretty badass. I shot the picture while the paper was just resting on my leg. A little blurry, but not bad for a random shot.

/reminds me that I need to figure out how to clean the lens on my phone's camera.