ColdHeat Soldering Iron

[Furious]

Get a good soldering iron and tell me you can't get burned from it and i'll stab you in the eye and show you what can't be burned.

Huh?

You can get burned from this soldering iron, you just have to try really hard.  It cools off extremely fast, but not instantly. 

[iago]

Get a good soldering iron and tell me you can't get burned from it and i'll stab you in the eye and show you what can't be burned.

Huh?

You can get burned from this soldering iron, you just have to try really hard.  It cools off extremely fast, but not instantly. 

Not not really sure what deadly7 was talking about.  He seemed to be implying that it was impossible to get burned by the soldering iron, or something..

[Furious]

I've been burned by soldering irons plenty, you can be burned by them, but with the coldheat it's nearly impossible, I'm sure there is some dumbass out there that could burn him/herself.

[Super_X]

yes - one involves uhh little wimpy electrical stuffs - the other involves sparks and fire and grounds and burns =)

You're really starting to bug me. Do you think that jewelry is welded? Jewelry happens to be an extremely large market. I doubt people pay thousands upon thousands of dollars for 'whimpy stuffs'.

Actually, Rabbit,  they do weld jewelry together. I've had experiance with it. We used Oxy Acetylene torches, and about 3psi of O₂ and 3psi of acetylene and a really low heat nuteral flame, then you can weld the  silver moderatly easly. You have to move faster with gold, though.

Get a good soldering iron and tell me you can't get burned from it and i'll stab you in the eye and show you what can't be burned.

Huh?

You can get burned from this soldering iron, you just have to try really hard. It cools off extremely fast, but not instantly.

Not not really sure what deadly7 was talking about. He seemed to be implying that it was impossible to get burned by the soldering iron, or something..

leet_muffin said that you get burned with welding, not soldering.

[Sidoh]

Actually, Rabbit,  they do weld jewelry together. I've had experiance with it. We used Oxy Acetylene torches, and about 3psi of O₂ and 3psi of acetylene and a really low heat nuteral flame, then you can weld the  silver moderatly easly. You have to move faster with gold, though.

I'm pretty sure they solder jewelry more than they weld it, though.

leet_muffin said that you get burned with welding, not soldering.

You do get burned soldering; we were saying it's hard to get burned with one of the ColdHeat irons that iago was using in the video.

[rabbit]

I make plenty of jewelry.  I use an acetelyn torch, but I have yet to weld anything.  I always use solder or, sometimes, and only with silver (to silver), direct fusing.  I demand you try to make some jewelry by welding.

Also, most professionally made jewelry is solid cast, and isn't bonded at all.

[deadly7]

Get a good soldering iron and tell me you can't get burned from it and i'll stab you in the eye and show you what can't be burned.

Huh?

You can get burned from this soldering iron, you just have to try really hard.  It cools off extremely fast, but not instantly. 

Not not really sure what deadly7 was talking about.  He seemed to be implying that it was impossible to get burned by the soldering iron, or something..

Lies.
leet_Muffin said that it wasn't possible to get burned by Soldering Irons because they work only on "wimpy little stuff," and I was telling him to get a good soldering iron (shitty ones can't burn you, they can sting a little but not burn you) and then say that.

[Sidoh]

leet_Muffin said that it wasn't possible to get burned by Soldering Irons because they work only on "wimpy little stuff," and I was telling him to get a good soldering iron (shitty ones can't burn you, they can sting a little but not burn you) and then say that.

They burn the crap out of you.  It doesn't hurt because it destroys the underlying nerves so you can't feel it.  Secondly, ColdHeat irons are perfectly fine for a hobbyist.  I've used both and unless you're doing heavy work, you don't need a normal iron...

[leet_muffin]

yes - one involves uhh little wimpy electrical stuffs - the other involves sparks and fire and grounds and burns =)

You're really starting to bug me.  Do you think that jewelry is welded?  Jewelry happens to be an extremely large market.  I doubt people pay thousands upon thousands of dollars for 'whimpy stuffs'.

hmm. Maybe I'm bugging you because your picking apart everything that I say. 'wimpy stuffs' was said in reference to the minute size and power needed in working on such things in comparison to the other. As you mentioned, jewelry is solid casted, so what was the point of mentioning it as a part of soldering? I currently use ascetelyn and mapp gas torches in combination with welding for ornamental works, that could be construed as jewelry. Technically - soldering is a form of welding, but probobly the most minute in its class. 

Also- deadly7 i never said anything about soldering irons never burning you, because they do.

Dont get me wrong, soldering has its place. In a few weeks or months i will be doing the electrical on the car. Dont think that I will be using a welder for that one.

[Sidoh]

hmm. Maybe I'm bugging you because your picking apart everything that I say. 'wimpy stuffs' was said in reference to the minute size and power needed in working on such things in comparison to the other. As you mentioned, jewelry is solid casted, so what was the point of mentioning it as a part of soldering? I currently use ascetelyn and mapp gas torches in combination with welding for ornamental works, that could be construed as jewelry. Technically - soldering is a form of welding, but probobly the most minute in its class. 

Also- deadly7 i never said anything about soldering irons never burning you, because they do.

Dont get me wrong, soldering has its place. In a few weeks or months i will be doing the electrical on the car. Dont think that I will be using a welder for that one.

Welders aren't versatile.  Of course soldering has its place... there wouldn't be soldering irons if welders could do the same thing they could.

[leet_muffin]

hmm. Maybe I'm bugging you because your picking apart everything that I say. 'wimpy stuffs' was said in reference to the minute size and power needed in working on such things in comparison to the other. As you mentioned, jewelry is solid casted, so what was the point of mentioning it as a part of soldering? I currently use ascetelyn and mapp gas torches in combination with welding for ornamental works, that could be construed as jewelry. Technically - soldering is a form of welding, but probobly the most minute in its class. 

Also- deadly7 i never said anything about soldering irons never burning you, because they do.

Dont get me wrong, soldering has its place. In a few weeks or months i will be doing the electrical on the car. Dont think that I will be using a welder for that one.

Welders aren't versatile.  Of course soldering has its place... there wouldn't be soldering irons if welders could do the same thing they could.

welders are VERY versatile. especially my current setup. I have my initial 30 lb wire of steel. So, I can weld steel with that line. Now, I also have my spool gun, which holds 1lb wires so I can weld any other type of metal which is sold in 1 lb wire, which includes stainless steel, alluminum, copper and so on. so we have most basic meltable metals in ability to weld. In TIG and stick welders, it is even more simple and versatile. But the main problem is, the sparks and such. Its messy. When people refer to welders, they are generally speaking of arc welders(MIG TIG Stick (GMAW TMAW)) but soldering irons are also a form of welders, but since they do not may an electric connection,get hot instead, all the sparks and such are iliminated, hence most people dont think of them as welders. They have their place in all small materials, maybe I should invent a welder with enough power variation for it to weld 'wimpy stuffs' such as wiring and jewelry more easily.

[Sidoh]

welders are VERY versatile. especially my current setup. I have my initial 30 lb wire of steel. So, I can weld steel with that line. Now, I also have my spool gun, which holds 1lb wires so I can weld any other type of metal which is sold in 1 lb wire, which includes stainless steel, alluminum, copper and so on. so we have most basic meltable metals in ability to weld. In TIG and stick welders, it is even more simple and versatile. But the main problem is, the sparks and such. Its messy. When people refer to welders, they are generally speaking of arc welders(MIG TIG Stick (GMAW TMAW)) but soldering irons are also a form of welders, but since they do not may an electric connection,get hot instead, all the sparks and such are iliminated, hence most people dont think of them as welders. They have their place in all small materials, maybe I should invent a welder with enough power variation for it to weld 'wimpy stuffs' such as wiring and jewelry more easily.

Not versatile enough, obviously.  I still don't think welding jewelry is a good idea at all... :p

[deadly7]

yes - one involves uhh little wimpy electrical stuffs - the other involves sparks and fire and grounds and burns =)

You're really starting to bug me.  Do you think that jewelry is welded?  Jewelry happens to be an extremely large market.  I doubt people pay thousands upon thousands of dollars for 'whimpy stuffs'.

Also- deadly7 i never said anything about soldering irons never burning you, because they do.

Sounded like you were saying that to me. *shrug*

[leet_muffin]

yes - one involves uhh little wimpy electrical stuffs - the other involves sparks and fire and grounds and burns =)

You're really starting to bug me.  Do you think that jewelry is welded?  Jewelry happens to be an extremely large market.  I doubt people pay thousands upon thousands of dollars for 'whimpy stuffs'.

Also- deadly7 i never said anything about soldering irons never burning you, because they do.

Sounded like you were saying that to me. *shrug*

If the bolded is of what you speak, I was referring to when you get a big spark in your shoe, and you have to simply let it burn through your sock and into your skin. Or those times, when you are new to it, and you think the metal has cooled, so you try to touch it, only to find out its still hot. I know soldering irons can burn you. I've worked far to much on guitar internals, RC cars, and electricals to say otherwise.

[Furious]

Hrm, if you need help with your car wiring, feel free to ask, I've re-wired 60% of my Mustang, the stereo and speakers in my brother's Camaro, and misc. parts on my dads Integra and Silverado.