I am just curious

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You can lose your salvation. My pastor mentioned this in one of his messages. I believe if you truly say you don't need God, you would lose it.

You'll forgive me if I don't accept your pastor as authoritative?

Of course I will!

So if we couldn't lose our salvarion, most people would recieve their salvation, then continue to live their own life after that. IE: rarely coming to church, never praying, not reading the Bible, etc. And yet we can still go to Heaven?

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We might not all deserve an eternity in heaven, but I don't think too many people on this world deserve an eternity of torture.

[Sidoh]

So if we couldn't lose our salvarion, most people would recieve their salvation, then continue to live their own life after that. IE: rarely coming to church, never praying, not reading the Bible, etc. And yet we can still go to Heaven?

You're Christian, right?  Salvation requires: a) The unquestionable belief in Jesus Christ as our savior, and b) Repentance of all sins.

The Bible urges us to attend church and refresh our memories of the scripture because turning away from the religion as a whole becomes much easier as you detatch yourself from activities that practice your beliefs.

According to Christianity, salvation is not based on merrit.

We might not all deserve an eternity in heaven, but I don't think too many people on this world deserve an eternity of torture.

Like I said, salvation--or, conversely, damnation--is not based on merrit.

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lol@merrit.  :)

So if I didn't believe in Jesus as my savior(if I was hindu or something), I would therefore not recieve salvation, and be damned to hell? That doesn't sound fair.

[Sidoh]

lol@merrit.  :)

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So if I didn't believe in Jesus as my savior(if I was hindu or something), I would therefore not recieve salvation, and be damned to hell? That doesn't sound fair.

QQ

[rabbit]

lol@merrit.  :)

So if I didn't believe in Jesus as my savior(if I was hindu or something), I would therefore not recieve salvation, and be damned to hell? That doesn't sound fair.

Well no duh.  The first Commandment is "Thou shalt not have any other god before me".

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So if we couldn't lose our salvarion, most people would recieve their salvation, then continue to live their own life after that. IE: rarely coming to church, never praying, not reading the Bible, etc. And yet we can still go to Heaven?

You're Christian, right?  Salvation requires: a) The unquestionable belief in Jesus Christ as our savior, and b) Repentance of all sins.

Yeah, I understand that. However, sometimes we fall away from God. I say this from experience. The moment you recieve your salvation and the moment you die, do you never expect yourself to fall away?

And, what does "QQ" mean? lol.

[Sidoh]

Yeah, I understand that. However, sometimes we fall away from God. I say this from experience. The moment you recieve your salvation and the moment you die, do you never expect yourself to fall away?

And, what does "QQ" mean? lol.

Ok

QQ is sort of internet slang for "Cry more."  It's a cry face :) Q_Q

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lol@merrit.  :)

So if I didn't believe in Jesus as my savior(if I was hindu or something), I would therefore not recieve salvation, and be damned to hell? That doesn't sound fair.

Well no duh.  The first Commandment is "Thou shalt not have any other god before me".

I mean like, what if you have never been exposed to Christianity? Or have been exposed to it by the wrong people.

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So, like, all the Africans that never have one of those missionary things come and greet them, and therefore have no idea about Christianity... They all go to hell? Cool.

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Exactly.  Well, not in my religion.

[Sidoh]

So, like, all the Africans that never have one of those missionary things come and greet them, and therefore have no idea about Christianity... They all go to hell? Cool.

The Bible says that those who are saved are filled with the Holy Spirit, and will seek out the gospel.

[leet_muffin]

God hates black people. So does Bush. Bush is God.

[Sidoh]

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[Armin]

I'm pretty agnostic, but I'm more or less convinced there is something out there. I just refuse to put a name on it. I'm only 17. I've got a lot more time to spend on the planet figuring out what exactly I believe. I'm not in a hurry to settle my beliefs. It might create a more sound faith if I did, but people that are very set in their religions do tend to not be very open to other religious beliefs. (Tend meaning it is a stereotype, there certainly are people out there that are religious and aren't "crude" to people who believe something else.)

But, yes. I believe in God. Just not in any firm set beliefs pertaining to the idea of God.

I love you. Those have been my exact thoughts for like the past year.