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Started by Blaze, February 23, 2007, 05:54:56 PM

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dark_drake

Quote from: Sidoh on February 28, 2007, 01:38:32 PM
Blizzard isn't congress.  They can make these rules for the same reason schools can legally disallow vulgar speech.
Well, I don't think it's quite like that.  Children have a right to an education, and vulgar speech apparently interferes with that right, or something to that extent.

Blizzard can make rules using their service because they provide it. If you do not want to follow their rules, you don't have to play.  It's almost like a restaurant/stores; they have the right to deny service.  For example, you see those signs that say, "No shirt. No shoes. No service."  Technically, walking around without a shirt is freedom of expression.  Are they impeding on your first ammendment rights? Absolutely not; you don't have to use their services.  The difference is that everyone is subject to laws, and only people desiring the service are subject to the terms of that service.

At least that's how I see it.
errr... something like that...

Sidoh

Quote from: dark_drake on February 28, 2007, 02:11:56 PM
Well, I don't think it's quite like that.  Children have a right to an education, and vulgar speech apparently interferes with that right, or something to that extent.

Blizzard can make rules using their service because they provide it. If you do not want to follow their rules, you don't have to play.  It's almost like a restaurant/stores; they have the right to deny service.  For example, you see those signs that say, "No shirt. No shoes. No service."  Technically, walking around without a shirt is freedom of expression.  Are they impeding on your first ammendment rights? Absolutely not; you don't have to use their services.  The difference is that everyone is subject to laws, and only people desiring the service are subject to the terms of that service.

At least that's how I see it.

The conclusion of your second paragraph was exactly what I was getting at.  It surely wasn't the best of analogies, but it got the point across (especially since I do not think that creating rules against vulgarity in public schools would defy the first amendment even if the argument you made didn't exist).

To be more specific, children have the right to a public education.  There are voucher programs that fund private education, but I'm unaware of one which is publicly funded that covers the full cost of tuition (the most famous one is Milwaukee Parental Choice Program, which, I think, funds up to half of the tuition of a choice private school).

Joe

Quote from: Sidoh on February 28, 2007, 01:38:32 PM
Blizzard isn't congress.  They can make these rules for the same reason schools can legally disallow vulgar speech.

That's a bad analogy. The realms are private property -- they could very well ban you for being Jewish. Now, if I were kicked out of school for being Jewish...
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You might be right about that, Joe.


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Quote from: Sidoh on February 28, 2007, 01:38:32 PM
Blizzard isn't congress.  They can make these rules for the same reason schools can legally disallow vulgar speech.

That's a bad analogy. The realms are private property -- they could very well ban you for being Jewish. Now, if I were kicked out of school for being Jewish...
I am pretty sure they wouldn't be able to...

Sidoh

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That's a bad analogy. The realms are private property -- they could very well ban you for being Jewish. Now, if I were kicked out of school for being Jewish...

No it's not.

It's absolutely against the law for public schools to discriminate in any way (other than academic and background records, for some obvious cases).

Having the ability to "ban" you for being Jewish is going a bit too far, I think.  Lawsuits could be filed over that.  However, religious schools can absolutely choose to accept only students of their religion assuming that they don't accept publicly funded vouchers, which was exactly my point.

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