Let's hear it!

[CrAz3D]

False positives are uncommon and it's been proven the act is working, I don't see a negative.

It's not the practice, it's the principle of the matter.  We WERE supposed to be a free country.

[trust]

False positives are uncommon and it's been proven the act is working, I don't see a negative.

It's not the practice, it's the principle of the matter.  We WERE supposed to be a free country.

Are you incapable of seeing the long term? It's either have the potential to restrict certain liberties of criminals, or end up in a police state because we are essentially fighting a war on our home soil against a virtually invisible enemy.

[rabbit]

Trust, you just said that every American citizen is a criminal and that the USAPATRIOT Act doesn't create a police state.

[Ender]

LMAO so my IT teacher is this super huge nerd and some people think he's gay by the way he talks. It's funny.

Today I was carrying some old computers in the work room and noticed something on the wall: "*****(name) T*MCHK SUCKS COCK". Obviously he didn't see that yet... 

How is that funny...? It's cruel.

[trust]

Trust, you just said that every American citizen is a criminal

no I didn't

and that the USAPATRIOT Act doesn't create a police state.

true

[Camel]

The act is one step in the direction of a police state.

[Killer360]

LMAO so my IT teacher is this super huge nerd and some people think he's gay by the way he talks. It's funny.

Today I was carrying some old computers in the work room and noticed something on the wall: "*****(name) T*MCHK SUCKS COCK". Obviously he didn't see that yet... 

How is that funny...? It's cruel.

You'd have to know the guy.

[iago]

Isn't part of the situation that the PATRIOT act creates that people who are against the government are punished? And isn't the entire point of the American government to keep power away from the government? Democracy means "rule by the people", but when the government exerts extra control, the rule is no longer by the people, it's by the government. And that's no called "democracy" anymore, there are other names for that. 

[leet_muffin]

Isn't part of the situation that the PATRIOT act creates that people who are against the government are punished? And isn't the entire point of the American government to keep power away from the government? Democracy means "rule by the people", but when the government exerts extra control, the rule is no longer by the people, it's by the government. And that's no called "democracy" anymore, there are other names for that. 

Illiberal democracy.

[BigAznDaddy]

Televised game tonight for our football team. i think i am going to get my face painted so i can try to be on tv and if anyone of you are in san diego Towlie or Zerox check us out on Channel 4. Big day today and it is raining right now o well.

[CrAz3D]

Isn't part of the situation that the PATRIOT act creates that people who are against the government are punished? And isn't the entire point of the American government to keep power away from the government? Democracy means "rule by the people", but when the government exerts extra control, the rule is no longer by the people, it's by the government. And that's no called "democracy" anymore, there are other names for that. 

It doesn't punish dissent.
The point of the Constitution is to limit government drastically.
We're a republic because in a democracy the people vote and public opinion is not public interest.

[Hitmen]

The point of the Constitution is to limit government drastically.
We're a republic because in a democracy the people vote and public opinion is not public interest.

Yup. Put them together, and what do we get? A Constitutional Republic!

[Killer360]

Can we please keep the political stuff in the political forum? 

[CrAz3D]

The point of the Constitution is to limit government drastically.
We're a republic because in a democracy the people vote and public opinion is not public interest.

Yup. Put them together, and what do we get? A Constitutional Republic!

Ta da.

...something Democrats and George Bush want to ruin.

[Killer360]

I should really take a camera to school and show you guys what my computer science class consists of... it's absolutely hilarious watching my IT teacher figure out how to use HTML.