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DVD to AVI?
« on: August 08, 2010, 02:44:49 pm »
What software(s) do you guys use to rip a full dvd to an encoded AVI, MKV, or other format? Which format(s) do you prefer/why? I've got some DVDs I want to back up before they [eventually] die and am looking for some feedback..
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Re: DVD to AVI?
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2010, 03:40:58 pm »
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Re: DVD to AVI?
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2010, 09:33:11 pm »
What software(s) do you guys use to rip a full dvd to an encoded AVI, MKV, or other format? Which format(s) do you prefer/why? I've got some DVDs I want to back up before they [eventually] die and am looking for some feedback..
Rip with DVDDecryptor, encode with MeGUI, contain with MKVMerge.

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Re: DVD to AVI?
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2010, 11:20:46 pm »
Rip with DVDDecryptor, encode with MeGUI, contain with MKVMerge.

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Re: DVD to AVI?
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2010, 11:45:37 pm »
Which container do you guys recommend? MKV or AVI? I've heard MKV has better compression ratios resulting in high-quality video while being a low-space format.
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Re: DVD to AVI?
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2010, 11:57:06 pm »
MKV is feature enriched, whilst AVI has higher compatibility.
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Re: DVD to AVI?
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2010, 12:32:17 am »
MKV is feature enriched, whilst AVI has higher compatibility.
I'm super unfamiliar with video streams. Are there any features in MKV's that I would actually find myself using? Alternately: if I intend to play it off my computer with VLC, does it matter regarding an AVI's "compatibility"? The data I found suggest that if I'm going to hook up a comp to a TV via HDMI, MKV's are way better for showing HD video than are AVI's.
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Re: DVD to AVI?
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2010, 01:13:13 am »
If you're playing it on a PC, MKV is the way to go.

Also, http://www.matroska.org/technical/guides/faq/index.html
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Re: DVD to AVI?
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2010, 01:23:07 am »
I haven't found a video format VLC can't play. MKV works fine.

As a side note, I use RipIt for ripping and HandBrake (I don't understand the name either) for converting. Alternatively RipIt just dumps it in a DVD format that works fine with both VLC and Apple's DVD Player app, but keeps the native file size which I don't like.
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Re: DVD to AVI?
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2010, 09:29:58 am »
HandBrake is garbage.  There are 2 ways to force a framerate, but neither work.  IVTC'ing a video is a pain in the ass, too.  No matter what you do, HandBrake will ALWAYS encode in VFR.  Screw HandBrake.

Which container do you guys recommend? MKV or AVI? I've heard MKV has better compression ratios resulting in high-quality video while being a low-space format.
The only time I use AVI is when I'm encoding video for my 360 (which I haven't done in a very long time) or when I plan to add hardsubs (also very rare), for which I use AVIMux.  I prefer MKV over AVI for various reasons which have all be stated, but mostly because of how flexible it is.  It's much easier (and requires a bit less space) to encode a video with multiple audio tracks in MKV.

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Re: DVD to AVI?
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2010, 10:12:18 am »
rabbit: MKV's have hardcoded subs too... i've downloaded a few that have had them. they also have a 'subtitle' option sometimes too, which is nifty. Or is this not normal?
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Re: DVD to AVI?
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2010, 11:10:28 am »
mencoder from the mplayer suite.  It's quite technical to use but you can encode any format from any format.

I recommend not decrypting the DVD.  Laws like the DMCA specifically prohibit circumventing the protection schemes (fair use does not apply).  However, a lot of DVD backup software merely copies the raw DVD image without decrypting which arguably doesn't circumvent the protection schemes.
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Re: DVD to AVI?
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2010, 02:30:37 pm »
mencoder from the mplayer suite.  It's quite technical to use but you can encode any format from any format.

I recommend not decrypting the DVD.  Laws like the DMCA specifically prohibit circumventing the protection schemes (fair use does not apply).  However, a lot of DVD backup software merely copies the raw DVD image without decrypting which arguably doesn't circumvent the protection schemes.
Actually, DMCA has been changed.  You're allowed to break encryption for fair use (CSS on DVDs to play them on Linux, for example).  It's totally legal do reencode.

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Re: DVD to AVI?
« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2010, 03:13:14 pm »
mencoder from the mplayer suite.  It's quite technical to use but you can encode any format from any format.

I recommend not decrypting the DVD.  Laws like the DMCA specifically prohibit circumventing the protection schemes (fair use does not apply).  However, a lot of DVD backup software merely copies the raw DVD image without decrypting which arguably doesn't circumvent the protection schemes.
Actually, DMCA has been changed.  You're allowed to break encryption for fair use (CSS on DVDs to play them on Linux, for example).  It's totally legal do reencode.

It still looks illegal to me:
http://www.copyright.gov/1201/

That document was revised July 28, 2010.  No where are there clauses that permit circumventing copy protection for backups.  Those clauses are the only form of fair use.
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Re: DVD to AVI?
« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2010, 03:51:23 pm »
mencoder from the mplayer suite.  It's quite technical to use but you can encode any format from any format.

I recommend not decrypting the DVD.  Laws like the DMCA specifically prohibit circumventing the protection schemes (fair use does not apply).  However, a lot of DVD backup software merely copies the raw DVD image without decrypting which arguably doesn't circumvent the protection schemes.
Actually, DMCA has been changed.  You're allowed to break encryption for fair use (CSS on DVDs to play them on Linux, for example).  It's totally legal do reencode.

It still looks illegal to me:
http://www.copyright.gov/1201/

That document was revised July 28, 2010.  No where are there clauses that permit circumventing copy protection for backups.  Those clauses are the only form of fair use.

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