I've seen the light!

[Joe]

As you all know, Blaze is mailing me Slackware (should be here tomorrow, right Blaze?). He stuck a Windows XP Corporate Pro disk in there. I'm sorry, but I simply can not part with WoW. I'm reformatting and dual-booting Slackware and WXPCP (too long to type!). I'll be in Slackware most of the time, for days at a time perhaps (I don't play WoW as much as some of you may think), but yeah, I'm reinstalling Windows.

@Newby: I don't remember if you said it on the forums, IRC, or AIM, but you're right, Linux on narrowband (thats what its called, so be quiet) isn't fun.

joe@JoeMomma:~ $ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Password:
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Calculating Upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  blt-common fam gnome-cpufreq-applet kontact-plugins libfam0c102 libgtop2-4 libkcal2 libnautilus2-2 libopenh323-1.13.2
  libpt-1.6.3 python-fixedpoint python-mpz python2.3-gdbm python2.3-gnome2 python2.3-mpz trashapplet ubuntu-desktop
  xfree86-driver-synaptics xserver-xfree86
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  akode anacron apache2-utils bittorrent cupsys-driver-gimpprint cupsys-driver-gimpprint-data dbus-qt-1 ethtool fping
  gaim-data gamin gnome-app-install gnome-btdownload gnome-doc-utils gnome-menus grepmap gtk2-engines-clearlooks gtkhtml3.6
  hwdb-client kdepasswd klatin kturtle kwordquiz libavc1394-0 libcamel1.2-3 libcurl3 libdb4.3 libdmx1 libebook1.2-3
  libecal1.2-2 libedata-book1.2-2 libedata-cal1.2-1 libedataserver1.2-4 libedataserverui1.2-4 libegroupwise1.2-5 libelfg0
  libevms-2.5 libflac6 libfs6 libgal2.4-0 libgal2.4-common libgamin0 libgcrypt11 libglib-perl libgnome-menu0
  libgnome2-canvas-perl libgnome2-perl libgnome2-vfs-perl libgnutls11 libgpgme11 libgtk2-perl libgtkhtml3.6-18 libgtop2-5
  libhal-storage0 libjasper-1.701-1 libkcal2a libkleopatra0a libkpimidentities1 libktnef1 libltdl3 libmimelib1a libmodplug0
  libmysqlclient12 libnautilus-burn1 libnautilus-extension1 liboil0.2 libopenexr2 libopenh323-1.15.2 libparted1.6-12
  libpt-1.8.3 libpt-plugins-v4l2 librasqal0 libreadline5 libsamplerate0 libshout3 libsmjs1 libswfdec0.3 libtidy0
  libtunepimp2 libwnck16 libwraster3 libxau-dev libxau6 libxaw8 libxcomposite1 libxdamage1 libxdmcp6 libxfixes3
  libxinerama1 libxkbfile-dev libxkbfile1 libxkbui1 libxklavier10 libxml2-utils libxss1 libxxf86dga1 libxxf86misc1
  libxxf86vm1 linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-386 mozilla-firefox-gnome-support nautilus-sendto
  openoffice.org-gtk-gnome php4-common php4-universe-common powermanagement-interface python-gst python-minimal python2.4
  python2.4-adns python2.4-clientcookie python2.4-crypto python2.4-dbus python2.4-dictclient python2.4-egenix-mxdatetime
  python2.4-egenix-mxproxy python2.4-egenix-mxstack python2.4-egenix-mxtexttools python2.4-egenix-mxtools python2.4-eunuchs
  python2.4-examples python2.4-gadfly python2.4-gd python2.4-gdbm python2.4-geoip python2.4-glade2 python2.4-gnome2
  python2.4-gtk2 python2.4-htmlgen python2.4-htmltmpl python2.4-id3lib python2.4-imaging python2.4-imaging-sane
  python2.4-jabber python2.4-kjbuckets python2.4-ldap python2.4-librdf python2.4-libxml2 python2.4-libxslt1
  python2.4-minimal python2.4-musicbrainz python2.4-mysqldb python2.4-numarray python2.4-numeric python2.4-opengl
  python2.4-osd python2.4-pam python2.4-pexpect python2.4-pgsql python2.4-pycurl python2.4-pylibacl python2.4-pymacs
  python2.4-pyopenssl python2.4-pyorbit python2.4-pyxattr python2.4-reportlab python2.4-samba python2.4-simpletal
  python2.4-sqlite python2.4-syck python2.4-tk python2.4-twisted python2.4-twisted-bin python2.4-unit python2.4-xml
  python2.4-xmpp readahead sane-utils system-tools-backends tidy totem ttf-arabeyes ubuntu-docs ubuntu-keyring
  ubuntu-quickguide update-manager update-notifier vbetool whois xorg-common xserver-xorg xsltproc
The following packages have been kept back:
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  base-config base-files base-passwd bash bc bicyclerepair bind9-host binutils bison blt bogofilter bsdmainutils bsdutils
  bug-buddy build-essential bzip2 capplets capplets-data cdrecord console-common console-data console-tools
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  dbus-glib-1 dc dcoprss debconf debconf-i18n debconf-utils debhelper debianutils defoma desktop-base desktop-file-utils
  dhcp3-client dhcp3-common dictionaries-common diff discover1 discover1-data diveintopython dmidecode dmsetup dnsutils
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  evolution-data-server evolution-exchange evolution-webcal eyesapplet fetchmail fifteenapplet file file-roller findutils
  flex fluxbox fontconfig foomatic-db foomatic-db-engine foomatic-db-gimp-print foomatic-db-hpijs foomatic-filters
  foomatic-filters-ppds fortune-mod fortunes-min ftp g++ g++-3.3 gaim gawk gcalctool gcc gcc-3.3 gcc-3.3-base gcc-3.4-base
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  initscripts intltool-debian iproute iptables irssi-text jade jfsutils john kaboodle kaddressbook kaddressbook-plugins
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  kgoldrunner khangman khelpcenter kicker kicker-applets kig kiten kjumpingcube klettres klettres-data klickety klines
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  ksig ksirtet ksmiletris ksmserver ksnake ksokoban kspaceduel ksplash kstars kstars-data ksysguard ksysguardd kteatime
  ktip ktouch ktron ktuberling ktux kverbos kvoctrain kweather kwin kwin4 kworldclock laptop-detect laptop-mode less
  lesstif1 lesstif2 lftp libacl1 libao2 libapache2-mod-php4 libapm1 libapr0 libart-2.0-2 libarts1 libartsc0
  libasn1-6-heimdal libasound2 libaspell15 libatk1.0-0 libatm1 libattr1 libaudio2 libaudiofile0 libblkid1 libbonobo2-0
  libbonobo2-common libbonoboui2-0 libbonoboui2-common libboost-python1.31.0 libbz2-1.0 libc6 libc6-dev libc6-i686
  libcomerr2 libconsole libcupsimage2 libcupsys2-gnutls10 libcurl2 libdb3 libdb4.1 libdb4.2 libdb4.2++ libdevmapper1.00
  libdiscover1 libdns16 libdps1 libdv4 libdvdnav4 libdvdread3 libeel2-2 libeel2-data libesd0 libexif10 libexpat1 libffi2
  libfontconfig1 libfreetype6 libfribidi0 libgail-common libgail17 libgal2.2-1 libgal2.2-common libgc1 libgcc1 libgconf2-4
  libgcrypt7 libgd1-noxpm libgd2-noxpm libgdk-pixbuf2 libgeoip1 libgimp2.0 libgimpprint1 libgksu1.2-0 libgksuui1.0-0
  libglade2-0 libglib2.0-0 libglib2.0-data libglib2.0-dev libgmp3 libgnome-desktop-2 libgnome-keyring0 libgnome-pilot2
  libgnome2-0 libgnome2-common libgnomecanvas2-0 libgnomecanvas2-common libgnomecups1.0-1 libgnomecupsui1.0-1
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  libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common libgnutls10 libgpg-error0 libgphoto2-2 libgphoto2-port0 libgpmg1 libgsf-1 libgsl0
  libgsm1 libgssapi1-heimdal libgstreamer-gconf0.8-0 libgstreamer-plugins0.8-0 libgstreamer0.8-0 libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin
  libgtk2.0-common libgtkhtml2-0 libgtkhtml3.2-11 libgtksourceview-common libgtksourceview1.0-0 libgtkspell0 libgucharmap4
  libguile-ltdl-1 libhal0 libhtml-parser-perl libhtml-tagset-perl libice-dev libice6 libid3-3.8.3 libidl0 libidn11
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  libmime-perl libmm13 libmng1 libmp3hip0 libmusicbrainz2 libmusicbrainz4 libmyspell3 libmysqlclient10 libneon24
  libnetpbm10 libnews-nntpclient-perl libnewt0.51 libnspr4 libnss3 libogg0 liboggflac1 libopenal0 libopencdk8 liborbit2
  libpam-modules libpam-runtime libpam0g libpanel-applet2-0 libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-common libpaper1 libpcap0.8 libpcre3
  libperl5.8 libpisock8 libpisync0 libpng10-0 libpng12-0 libpopt0 libpq3 libpt-plugins-alsa libpt-plugins-v4l libqt3c102-mt
  libqthreads-12 libraptor1 libraw1394-5 librdf0 libreadline4 libreiserfs0.3-0 libroken16-kerberos4kth librpm4 librss1
  librsvg2-2 librsvg2-common libsane libsasl2 libsasl2-modules libscrollkeeper0 libsdl1.2debian libsdl1.2debian-oss
  libselinux1 libsensors3 libslp1 libsm-dev libsm6 libsmbclient libsoup2.2-7 libsp1 libsqlite0 libss2 libssl0.9.7
  libstartup-notification0 libstdc++5 libstdc++5-3.3-dev libstlport4.6 libtag1 libtasn1-2 libtiff4 libtimedate-perl
  libungif4g libusb-0.1-4 libuuid1 libvte-common libvte4 libwine libwnck-common libwrap0 libwvstreams3-base libwww-perl
  libx11-6 libx11-dev libxaw7 libxext-dev libxext6 libxft2 libxi-dev libxi6 libxine1 libxml2 libxmu-dev libxmu6 libxmuu-dev
  libxmuu1 libxosd2 libxp-dev libxp6 libxpm-dev libxpm4 libxrandr-dev libxrandr2 libxrender-dev libxrender1 libxslt1.1
  libxt-dev libxt6 libxtrap-dev libxtrap6 libxtst-dev libxtst6 libxv-dev libxv1 lilo links linux-386 linux-image-386
  linux-kernel-headers linux-restricted-modules-386 locales login lsb lsb-base lsb-release lskat lsof ltrace lvm-common
  lvm10 lvm2 m4 mailx make makedev man-db manpages mdadm memtest86+ menu menu-xdg metacity mime-support mkisofs
  module-init-tools mount mozilla-firefox mtr-tiny mutt myspell-en-gb myspell-en-us mysql-common nano nautilus
  nautilus-cd-burner nautilus-data netbase netcat netkit-inetd netpbm ntp ntpdate nvidia-kernel-common openoffice.org
  openoffice.org-bin openoffice.org-debian-files openoffice.org-help-en openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-gb
  openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us openoffice.org-l10n-en openoffice.org-mimelnk openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-us
  openssh-client openssh-server openssl parted passwd patch pciutils perl perl-base perl-modules php4 php4-mysql phpbb2
  pkg-config pm-dev pmount pnm2ppa po-debconf popularity-contest portmap postfix postfix-tls powermgmt-base powernowd ppp
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  python-eunuchs python-examples python-gadfly python-gd python-gdbm python-gdchart python-genetic python-geoip
  python-glade2 python-gnome2 python-gnupginterface python-gtk2 python-hip python-htmlgen python-htmltmpl python-id3lib
  python-imaging python-imaging-sane python-jabber python-kjbuckets python-ldap python-musicbrainz python-mysqldb
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  python2.3-gadfly python2.3-htmlgen python2.3-htmltmpl python2.3-iconvcodec python2.3-id3lib python2.3-imaging
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  python2.3-mysqldb python2.3-numarray python2.3-numeric python2.3-opengl python2.3-osd python2.3-pam python2.3-pexpect
  python2.3-pgsql python2.3-pycurl python2.3-pylibacl python2.3-pymacs python2.3-pyopenssl python2.3-pyorbit
  python2.3-pyxattr python2.3-reportlab python2.3-simpletal python2.3-sqlite python2.3-tk python2.3-twisted
  python2.3-twisted-bin python2.3-unit python2.3-xml python2.3-xmpp rdesktop reiser4progs reiserfsprogs render-dev
  reportbug rhythmbox rpm rsync samba samba-common screen scrollkeeper secpolicy sed sgml-base shared-mime-info slang1
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  ttf-kochi-gothic ttf-kochi-mincho ttf-malayalam-fonts ttf-opensymbol ubuntu-artwork ubuntu-base ucf udev unzip usbutils
  util-linux vim vim-common vino vnc-common vncserver vorbis-tools w3m wget whiptail wireless-tools wmaker x-dev
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917 upgraded, 182 newly installed, 19 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 600MB of archives.
After unpacking 302MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

Also, I am not giving up on using Linux, I'm simply giving up on trying to get WoW working with it. Well, it does work under wine, but rightclick interaction with NPCs is broken and my FPS gets totally owned (10FPS max, standing still with nothing happening, 2FPS moving).

[MyndFyre]

In other words, my edit is correct, and I'll never use Windows again? Kay.

You'll be back to Windows in no time.

[Newby]

I'll never use Windows again...

...I _cant_ go back.

You set yourself up for your inevitable downfall. :]

As for your graphics card getting 2FPS, do you have graphics card drivers installed?

root@impaler:~# fglrxinfo 
display: :0.0  screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: RADEON X800 XT Platinum Edition Generic
OpenGL version string: 1.3.5272 (X4.3.0-8.16.20)

If it says something like Mesa, you don't have it installed. It definetely helps shit out, considering I can't game without my graphics card drivers installed (and compatible with my kernel) :O!

EDIT -- DAMN YOU MYNDY. YOU STOLE MY QUOTE WHILE I WAS POSTING! -.-

Eh, what the hell is Windows XP corporate? I don't have that / can't buy it, and my dad works for M$...

[MyndFyre]

If it says something like Mesa, you don't have it installed. It definetely helps shit out, considering I can't game without my graphics card drivers installed (and compatible with my kernel) :O!

You mean Vesa dumbass.  :P  Mesa is where your dad is moving.  :P

EDIT -- DAMN YOU MYNDY. YOU STOLE MY QUOTE WHILE I WAS POSTING! -.-

Pwngrammer Myndy!

[Newby]

x86] link=topic=3031.msg30362#msg30362 date=1127861855]
You mean Vesa dumbass.  :P  Mesa is where your dad is moving.  :P

(13:36:38) Newby1337: root@impaler:/home/newby/games/quake3# fglrxinfo
display: :0.0  screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)

(13:36:43) Newby1337: help meee
(13:36:45) iagox86: you probably need to reinstall your video card driver

I'm pretty sure I meant "something like Mesa" just like I said. :P

IIRC, using Mesa means software rendering (using the CPU instead of the graphics card for rendering images) and with games, that's slooooooow.

[Ergot]

Incredibly slow! And yea... ATI drivers out-do Mesa by a long shot... <3 Newby.

[MyndFyre]

x86] link=topic=3031.msg30362#msg30362 date=1127861855]
You mean Vesa dumbass.  :P  Mesa is where your dad is moving.  :P

(13:36:38) Newby1337: root@impaler:/home/newby/games/quake3# fglrxinfo
display: :0.0  screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)

(13:36:43) Newby1337: help meee
(13:36:45) iagox86: you probably need to reinstall your video card driver

I'm pretty sure I meant "something like Mesa" just like I said. :P

IIRC, using Mesa means software rendering (using the CPU instead of the graphics card for rendering images) and with games, that's slooooooow.

Mesa might be an independent 3d solution, but Vesa (or the Video Electronics Standards Association) that put together a standard by which all video cards should be able to play with a generic driver.  Mesa is a 3-D API that runs on top of your driver and is similar in nature to OpenGL.

G_G

[Newby]

I'll never use Windows again...

...I _cant_ go back.

x86] link=topic=3031.msg30359#msg30359 date=1127861621]

In other words, my edit is correct, and I'll never use Windows again? Kay.

You'll be back to Windows in no time.

HAHAHA, OWNED. YOU ARE USING WINDOWS, WOMAN!

[iago]

I'll never use Windows again...

...I _cant_ go back.

x86] link=topic=3031.msg30359#msg30359 date=1127861621]

In other words, my edit is correct, and I'll never use Windows again? Kay.

You'll be back to Windows in no time.

HAHAHA, OWNED. YOU ARE USING WINDOWS, WOMAN!

Duh

[Newby]

Temporarily.

I'm going to reinstall Windows, killing Linux. Sad, sad day. I'm going to do a 60GB/60GB split, though, so I can install Slackware when my package from Blaze gets here. =)

Reason: Guild Wars. Way to go Blaze. <3

9 days for his package to arrive?

No, I think joe quit. :)

[Joe]

No, Blaze is a very slow mailer.

[Newby]

Now that I think about it, so is Ron. Thief 2 still hasn't arrived! >:(

[Joe]

And I've been waiting for that CD with Eclipse for a few months now. =p

[iago]

Now that I think about it, so is Ron. Thief 2 still hasn't arrived! >:(

Yeah, I almost mailed it friday.  Tomorrow is looking good :)

And I've been waiting for that CD with Eclipse for a few months now. =p

I never agreed to send that, and don't intend to. 

Prove otherwise!

[Joe]

I was under the impression you agreed, but I have it now, so it doesn't matter either way.

PS: Contact gamesnake. We're having ops bot problems.